Be sure to watch Four Corners on Monday night

[Triple V]

Just saw a couple of posts to another Forum that I'm a member of. Apparently the show will feature an expose on the TB's, how well or not so well the Punters are protected from crooks etc. Interesting. The bloke who mentioned it is invariably well informed so it should be worth a look.

[aussiebreno]

Thanks christ you said TBs. I'd glimsped over a thoroughbred forum where the Four Corners episode was mentioned and your thread made me think we were going to get a public grilling as well.

[Triple V]

Well I understand it is the TB's only Breno. I certainly hope so.
The hook to it is apparently Quote [sport, gambling and organised crime, what's the relationship and what is being done to protect the players from the crooks.] I reckon that it'll be worth watching, regardless.
As much as I believe that the ABC is a publicly funded Leftist wank tank, there's no doubt that Four Corners is one of the last bastions of true investigative journalism.

[Thevoiceofreason]

I might be wrong however I think it is 12 months to the day since the Harness Swabbing Case first broke.

August 16th I think is the next court date in that saga

[Triple V]

Not sure VOR. I had it pegged as somewhere in the first week of August 2011.
This sort of thing is a Crap Sandwich that has the disturbing regenerative properties of Albert, The Magic Pudding, that I do know.
Sadly, it just keeps on giving.

[little fish]

Sorry should've included the below quote as well. Pretty clearly states that Sequenzia is a serious threat to the integrity of harness racing in Victoria.

While members of Tony Mokbel's old tracksuit gang are barred from Victorian racetracks and the Crown Casino - on the actions of former chief police commissioner Christine Nixon - Mr Sequenzia and several members of the re-formed group are not. This is despite police intelligence revealing they are a major threat to the integrity of racing in Victoria.

Not slander if we're just quoting The Age newspaper is it?

[Triple V]

I'd have deleted what you posted there too Barry only that I have recently removed myself from such duties. It's one thing for you to re-post what has been written in a newspaper. It is another thing entirely to then toss your two Bob's worth in over the top of that....which is what you did. Like every single one of us, the man is of course entitled to the presumption of innocence. Like it or lump it, that is the way our legal system works.....and that God for that.

[broncobrad]

Will try to watch a replay of the show later tonight to see what the stink is about. (Just so I am on topic)

In the meantime it has become alarming that the number of regular posters are becoming so disillussioned with the site. From the sidelines it has become disheartening to see the likes of Don Corleone, Danno, Little Fish, Dizzy, Mark Diegutus etc feeling so strongly that they would prefer to take a break or abandon the site all together. Some of these have got more knowledge on the animals or the game in the dirt under their fingernails than I could ever hope to acquire in a lifetime.

There is no doubt that a couple of issues have polarised us. It is dissappointing to see belittling or outright ridicule being dished out and accepted on the forum as if it is just par for the course. All it does is stifle conversation. I am certain there are personalities on this forum who have no issue venting their spleen in such a forthright manner that some new members would find too daunting to offer comment for fear of some type of retribution. Jaimee, I think your offer to have moderator removed from your armory is a good move and shows good judgement. Have been a member of the forum since the swabbing scandal broke and have seen and partaken in some fiesty topics...and most of the time people have been allowed a bit of rein. As viewers to the forum we have no idea what posts are removed and what the content is, that is deemed unfit for general consumption...assuming we all know and understand what our responsibilities are, but I feel if the moderating continues in this manner or the attitude to removals of posts does not improve there won't be much to look forward to. I would not consider any of the folk who are in abeyance at present to be anything like the trouble making, shit-slinging, loud mouthed agitators that forced Jules to post the rules at the top of the thread list for all future users.

I think the forum has become a depressing place to visit recently, which is a real shame because without doubt, three months ago I was addicted to it and if I didn't get a daily fix, I would go into withdrawals. I hope the tone of the forum improves soon.

[Mitch]

Will try to watch a replay of the show later tonight to see what the stink is about. (Just so I am on topic)

In the meantime it has become alarming that the number of regular posters are becoming so disillussioned with the site. From the sidelines it has become disheartening to see the likes of Don Corleone, Danno, Little Fish, Dizzy, Mark Diegutus etc feeling so strongly that they would prefer to take a break or abandon the site all together. Some of these have got more knowledge on the animals or the game in the dirt under their fingernails than I could ever hope to acquire in a lifetime.

There is no doubt that a couple of issues have polarised us. It is dissappointing to see belittling or outright ridicule being dished out and accepted on the forum as if it is just par for the course. All it does is stifle conversation. I am certain there are personalities on this forum who have no issue venting their spleen in such a forthright manner that some new members would find too daunting to offer comment for fear of some type of retribution. Jaimee, I think your offer to have moderator removed from your armory is a good move and shows good judgement. Have been a member of the forum since the swabbing scandal broke and have seen and partaken in some fiesty topics...and most of the time people have been allowed a bit of rein. As viewers to the forum we have no idea what posts are removed and what the content is, that is deemed unfit for general consumption...assuming we all know and understand what our responsibilities are, but I feel if the moderating continues in this manner or the attitude to removals of posts does not improve there won't be much to look forward to. I would not consider any of the folk who are in abeyance at present to be anything like the trouble making, shit-slinging, loud mouthed agitators that forced Jules to post the rules at the top of the thread list for all future users.

I think the forum has become a depressing place to visit recently, which is a real shame because without doubt, three months ago I was addicted to it and if I didn't get a daily fix, I would go into withdrawals. I hope the tone of the forum improves soon.

Well said Brad. For what its worth I think there are two things that bring this forum down; 1. People make things personal. Its all good to share an opinion and engage in a robust debate but personal attacks are unnecessary and cruel. 2. People can't control their emotions on certain topics and make baseless accusations or become plain derogatory. There are some very sensitive issues playing out in the sport at present, everyone just needs to respect that its going to take time and there will be continual ongoing challenges to overcome.

I too enjoy participating in this forum, sharing my opinions and debating with others on theirs. All of the aforementioned in your post contribute great stuff on this forum, it would be sad if they all left.

Jaimie & Dot you are two of the most passionate and knowledgeable people on here, I enjoy your debates... stick to the facts, keep it clean and there is no problem.

In regards to the topic of this post... thought the 4 corners story was incredibly boring! No new news at all.

[Triple V]

Bugger, I just wrote a thesis in reply but it took so long I got logged out and lost it. It was brilliant too Brad, take it from me, absolutely brilliant it was.