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    Quote Originally Posted by starkmarty View Post
    Here`s just another small example of the distain Board menbers ( in particular, Les Bentley, as President of Bankstown HRC) have for trainers. The disfunctional Committee of Bankstown Harness Racing Club have just advised trainers and residents of the `Monster Fireworks Display 12th November`.
    Without any regard for the welfare of resident horses, this laughable lot have approved this potentially disastrous action on behalf of the Annual Muslim Show.
    Yet another example of conflict of interest by HRNSW, and some board members.
    How this lot survives is beyond me.
    A few years ago, I lost a very good horse through one of these fireworks displays, (Doug Bromac; 20+ wins) when he crashed through a fence in fright.
    How people can sell themselves for a plate of sandwich`s and the illusion of power is sad.
    The sooner they go the better. Martin Herbert, Trainer/Driver/ Breeder/ Owner
    Very sorry to hear your plight. Perhaps the resident trainers can invest in some ear plugs and tranquiliser? Not ideal but would be an absolute shame to loose a horse due to it Just trying to think proactively....

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    Martin, I fear you've misjudged Les in this instance. I've no doubt that his intentions are well-meaning.
    By way of the use of a Monster Fireworks Display they're simply seeking to bring back, for all those assembled, pleasant memories of Beruit circa 1975-1990.

    There is a whisper around the traps that Peter Dewsbury will be dressed as Yasser Arafat...although I have been unable to confirm.

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    Say what...
    In NZ the relegation rule does exist and is applied in nearly 70% of all interference protests lodged. i.e. case proven..
    Suspensions in NZ are few and far between. They are applied when careless driving results in a smash / fall or when a horseperson chooses suspension over a fine. They are given a choice of penalty here. Some horsepeople can't afford a fine while others have so many commitments a suspension is only punishing innocents like owners.

    the current rule by my reading does not allow relegation and even if it does it it is not policy in Australia not just NSW, also New Zealand where it is a rule it is hardly ever used there are however many suspensions for causing interference.

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    Quote Originally Posted by triplev123 View Post
    Martin, I fear you've misjudged Les in this instance. I've no doubt that his intentions are well-meaning.
    By way of the use of a Monster Fireworks Display they're simply seeking to bring back, for all those assembled, pleasant memories of Beruit circa 1975-1990.

    There is a whisper around the traps that Peter Dewsbury will be dressed as Yasser Arafat...although I have been unable to confirm.

    Not bad triplev123, but maybe too close to the truth! Last year we had array of fireworks, bangers etc going off right behind our barn here in Condell Park.
    Most horses were going beserk, so we done our best to settle them down.
    I was furious after the Doug Bromac incident the previous year. He was a valuable animal, winning us over $150,000 in prizemoney. He never won another race after his injuries.

    We went for a drive around to the parallel street and there they were, in the middle of the road, setting off the `big display`. These were locals, but not maybe born on our shores. After expressing our concern, we were threatened with violence.

    In my opinion, as a previous President, Treasurer and Director of Bankstown Harness Racing Club, I put local concerns first, and that means trainers, drivers, owners and last but certainly not least, the horses themselves.

    That is not the concern of the incumbent Committee, and I have many incidents to support this position.

    Spin and `BS`rule the day! ie, their claim to be `Sydney`s Home of Harness racing`. Good Grief`

    The inside `sand` track went without any topping for 9 months due to lack of funds.
    This was primarily bought about by losing almost all funding from our sister club, the Bankstown Trotting and Recreational Club.

    They had a problem with threats from Les Bentley and rightly so. These funds are most unlikely to be offered again so there is only one direction for this once proud and historic club now. Extinction.
    His lame duck, rubber stamp Committee simply follow along, as he is a `NSWHR Board Member`, so he must be right! Yeah, right.
    Do I have an axe to grind?
    No, as I have resigned and not run for any position for 2 years. If the members want them, Have `em!
    My plans lay elsewhere.

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    You've missed my point there mate, that was just meant to be funny, nothing else.
    I would not know Les if I fell over him but Peter's long been a mate of mine & he is married to the sister of another mate of mine. The thought of Peter appearing on the night dressed up as the late PLO Chairman kinda tickled my fancy, that's all. Take it easy Trooper, you'll blow a valve.

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    Yes

    Quote Originally Posted by triplev123 View Post
    You've missed my point there mate, that was just meant to be funny, nothing else.
    I would not know Les if I fell over him but Peter's long been a mate of mine & he is married to the sister of another mate of mine. The thought of Peter appearing on the night dressed up as the late PLO Chairman kinda tickled my fancy, that's all. Take it easy Trooper, you'll blow a valve.
    Yes you are right vvv, I should not take it too seriously. And I did get a good laugh from your post.
    I guess it`s just a hard game this without big rewards- for most.
    I dont normally have much to do with forums and the to and fro that goes on, but fireworks and horses just don`t mix.
    I`ve decided to load my horses on my truck just before detonation and take a drive for 30 minutes.
    Everything, including me, will have calmed down by then.
    And I do realise clubs need income from many areas, including Muslim `Festivals`

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    Martin, you do have my sympathies re: the Fireworks. I think that's crazy. Years ago I was on course at Penrith & they started up a fireworks display(one which everyone had been notified about) but for reasons only known to themselves they did it before the allotted time for all of the horses to be out of there...& their reactions were frightening. Some of them went absolutely troppo. Similar to what happens in a really bad lightning/thunderstorm.

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    Crackers!

    Quote Originally Posted by triplev123 View Post
    Martin, you do have my sympathies re: the Fireworks. I think that's crazy. Years ago I was on course at Penrith & they started up a fireworks display(one which everyone had been notified about) but for reasons only known to themselves they did it before the allotted time for all of the horses to be out of there...& their reactions were frightening. Some of them went absolutely troppo. Similar to what happens in a really bad lightning/thunderstorm.

    Well vvv others with a better memory than might recall the late stratching of the favourite, Jack Morris I think, for the Miracle Mile many years ago. I was there and prior to the race Vince Sylvestro put on one of his shows ( and a mighty show it was too, just at the wrong venue ).
    Jack was a late scratching at the barrier when blood was detected from one nostril. His trainer claimed he had reacted violently to the bangers and hit his head.
    Horses rarely bled in the prelim and Jack went on to win other races so Sean Harney was probably right.
    Nevertheless, my solution is easy as I outlined previously; a drive around for a bit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by starkmarty View Post
    Well vvv others with a better memory than might recall the late stratching of the favourite, Jack Morris I think, for the Miracle Mile many years ago. I was there and prior to the race Vince Sylvestro put on one of his shows ( and a mighty show it was too, just at the wrong venue ).
    Jack was a late scratching at the barrier when blood was detected from one nostril. His trainer claimed he had reacted violently to the bangers and hit his head.
    Horses rarely bled in the prelim and Jack went on to win other races so Sean Harney was probably right.
    Nevertheless, my solution is easy as I outlined previously; a drive around for a bit.
    [VVV] Geeze, there's a blast from the past.
    I don't know how the Hell it was that Sean managed to avoid scoring a Bute positive with that horse. He used to get a tub of it out & scoop a couple of fingers into it and jam a big blob or two of it into the horse's mouth. Other days, other ways I guess. Harney reminded me a fair bit of Vin Knight. He was different but struck me as a real character.

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    Heard a good one about a bleeder. It won the race and a journo came up for an interview. The strapper had took the horse away fearing they would get found out and the winning connections had a photo snapped for the local rag with 'their' horse. Get this though; the bleeder was a bay horse...the horse snapped in the picture was grey!

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