Penrith's off...again.

[smithy]

i never said i would bar the horses, just that races shouldnt be put on for these 'battlers'... if they want to play for the big money then they shoul be prepared to be distanced on the big track rather than hiding on a little one... harness racing has been dieing a slow death in nsw with small tracks and terrible horses in tab timeslots, this is now a good chance to have top line horses racing day in day out

[Greg Hando]

What class of races do they run on Monday and Tuesday's at Menangle battler races for the most part if they were only going to run races for the better class horses you might get a meeting once a week
for these horses at present as i said the battler's keep the sport going and in saying that you also have to place your horse properly where it is most suited to perform

[triplev123]

Hey Triple

So i take it each of the clubs Penrith, Bankstown and fairfield own the land which the tracks are situated on and if they do that would be some serious coin. The cost of land and setting up at Eatern Creek wouldn't be cheap.

Nah, only Penrith. I understand that Fairfield and Bankstown pay rent to the assembled Vultures at their respective local 'Show Societies'.
The land at Eastern Creek is in the bag for nicks if they could all manage to get their heads out of the backsides and see the bigger picture.

[triplev123]

blow up all the tracks in sydney and make them race at menangle

why do we need to look after the weak, high gatespeed horses (same goes for not having a sprintlane)? Would advance our breed 100x racing at menangle, no place to hide in that long straight

testify brother smithy! Amen.

[Greg Hando]

I think Fairfield is owned by the council weren't they going to build a bigger track or put money toward's it about the time Fairfield was being shutdown ?

[Greg Hando]

Nah, only Penrith. I understand that Fairfield and Bankstown pay rent to the assembled Vultures at their respective local 'Show Societies'.
The land at Eastern Creek is in the bag for nicks if they could all manage to get their heads out of the backsides and see the bigger picture.

They can't see the bigger picture with Blockeyes on i think it would be a good move

[triplev123]

Actually Mango, from the statistics we gathered recently as part of the Breeders Panel, it was found that 90%(yes NINETY%) of people who breed, breed to race the resultant foal!

Well & truly beat me to the punch there Mightymo. I thought THAT was THE most interesting statistic which arose from the survey. For years and years various State administrative bodies & Breeders Associations have repeatedly disappeared up their own respective clacks on that score. They saw fit to quite erroneously treat Breeders & Racing Owners as entirely seperate entities...as though somehow it was a case of never the twain shall meet save on Sale day...when all along they (Breeders & Racing Owners) were, for the well & truly overwhelming majority, one & the same.

[triplev123]

And VVV I see you mentioned economies of scale. Microeconomics first intoduced me to that term in uni just a few months ago...my exams are over and never again did I want to hear anything about it!

Sorry Breno,
Of all the mind numbing, brain desiccating crap that I had to listen to in Economics...that was the sole thing that stuck with me, the one grass roots & able to be practically applied notion that managed to cut through all the fog & make absolutely perfect sense.

[triplev123]

yes tripl v but can you see that ever happening here? i know they tried to have it brought in and fitzy blocked it...and now hes the main one behind a sprintlane and supporting small tracks for weak horses...go figure

Couldn't agree more Smithy. IMO there is ABSOLUTELY no need for a passing lane at Menangle. None whatsoever.
This viewpoint will become even more apparent as the grade of horse continues to improve in direct response to the excellent prizemoney available.
When C0's are going around for 10k-12k and 1:52-1:53's are par for the course in those grades you'll not see traffic problems late in the Mile. They are, after all, not a function of the track. They are ALL about the class of horse involved and so the tempo of the racing. Better class horses and so up tempo miles will rarely result in traffic problems inside of the final 1/4, 1/8th, 1/16th. In fact, even now, those who may feel so inclinded only need look at the number of NCR's & NCRVS's that're tagged on each grade for evidence of the above. I don't understand Paul's stance on this one. For mine, small tracks and sprint lanes do exactly what the now defunct NSW Sires Stakes did...they promote mediocrity. Menangle should be about THE BEST OF THE BEST doing battle every week over the wide open spaces of the big track...not pocket sitting speedy skunks that'll suck the blood of horses cutting the mile and then zip up the inside for a 16th to edge them out in shadows of the post.

[triplev123]

I think Fairfield is owned by the council weren't they going to build a bigger track or put money toward's it about the time Fairfield was being shutdown ?

That was a bit of a furphy Greg. There was all sorts of Sabre rattling going on at the time but I know a few fellas who were on and one that is still on the Fairfield Council and it had no hope of ever being funded. In a Shire that has long been so desperately in need of so many other resident facilities their ratepayers would have burned the Chambers down if they'd flicked $$$ to help on the upgrade of a racetrack & they all knew it.