Mr. X

[Thevoiceofreason]

TVF my reason is .... do you think for one minute that Sam never had a start when he was punting ?
if you do then dont forget to leave your teeth out for the tooth fairy

By the way I am going ordinary can you get some cash from the fairy for me mine are all falling out some cash will help.

[David Summers]

Ringman , you seem to be making some rather , shall we say , not too wise words, and I suggest politely that you keep your big mouth shut. Most of us on here know and can readily name those that are under investigation but we are being diplomatic and letting justice take it's course.

How about you doing that too , and not try to slander and bad-mouth those that are spending every minute of their working day , in an effort to bring these scumbags to justice and get our industry back on course. Your comments regarding Sam Nati are complete unnecessary. I have been watching the races on Sky tonight with several buddies while reading these harness comments and we all have the same comment - It makes us wonder why you are even bothering to make these stupid comments.

[ringman]

Ozninja very aggressive keyboard gangster you are, my motives are to clean the game up and not to have a person doing the investigating that has had inside information in the past running it.

if you have a problem with that then dont reply just shut your big mouth as im sure Sam will sue me if i say anything slanderous

but he wont 100%

[Thevoiceofreason]

ringman , you seem to be making some rather , shall we say , not to wise words, and i suggest politely that you keep your big mouth shut. Most of us on here know and can readily name those that are under investigation but we are being diplomatic and letting justice take it's course.

How about you doing that too , and not try to slander and bad-mouth those that are spending every minute of their working day , in an effort to bring these scumbags to justice and get our industry back on course. Your comments regarding sam nati are complete unnecessary. I have been watching the races on sky tonight with several buddies while reading these harness comments and we all have the same comment - it makes us wonder your are even bothering to make these stupid comments.

well said

[JCT2011]

Ringman , you seem to be making some rather , shall we say , not to wise words, and I suggest politely that you keep your big mouth shut. Most of us on here know and can readily name those that are under investigation but we are being diplomatic and letting justice take it's course.

How about you doing that too , and not try to slander and bad-mouth those that are spending every minute of their working day , in an effort to bring these scumbags to justice and get our industry back on course. Your comments regarding Sam Nati are complete unnecessary. I have been watching the races on Sky tonight with several buddies while reading these harness comments and we all have the same comment - It makes us wonder your are even bothering to make these stupid comments.

Amen

[David Summers]

I see , ringman. So it's let's bad-mouth the investigators and try to seemingly side track the topic away from the real scumbags. There are already a couple of stooges on other threads trying to do that , very unsuccessfully. I trust that you are not attempting to do that , so I will give you the benefit of the doubt.

[ringman]

ozninja i am not bad mouthing Sam just stating the facts. he didnt do anything illegal in the past and im a great believer in giving any person life from harness racing if they are involved in any scam. as for drivers involved in this matter it should be handled in a court of law because they have defrauded the public and be given time in nick if found guilty.

I can see where you blokes are coming from but im not saying Sam would do anything untoward in the investigation.but if he outs someone for punting on these races because they got a tip from a certain stable that gave them a edge its just not right for Sam to handle it.

[triplev123]

Is that seriously the best you can do ringman? 40 odd shit bags to aim up on and instead you aim up on the bloke wearing the white hat? You should be ashamed of yourself.

[Diesel]

The Police are handling the investigation and Sam Nati seems to be the middle man. Firstly the Cat and his Daddy approach Sam as they would hope for leniency. This is not for Sam to negotiate leniency or deals for this grub and his father. His father should also be under investigaton for trying to obstruct justice.
The Leading Driver who has rolled over has only done this cos he has been caught and named in the bunch. I bet he and the Cat would still be doing it if not caught........
No matter what assistance they give to the investigation should not alter the punishment thats coming to them......

[David Summers]

This is an interesting article published yesterday giving more details of how the scam worked http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/su...-1226128409969

Note an interesting statement in the article involving "several high-profile reinsmen understood to be heavily involved in the scandal .To make a good thing an even better good thing, a small group would discuss pre-race tactics".

Ummmm ........... no , I will not comment , except to say , what a load of absolute scumbags. Deserve life bans from the harness industry if found guilty whether they "co-operate" now that they have been exposed or not.