Mr. X

[thesushitrain]

i agree he shouldnt be meeting with these people, sam needs to stay well away from being grouped with them, those 2 people could say sam said anything, if he must meet them he should have a 3rd party there as well to protect himself

[ringman]

Is that seriously the best you can do ringman? 40 odd shit bags to aim up on and instead you aim up on the bloke wearing the white hat? You should be ashamed of yourself.

Triplev123

Lets not forget Sam has not always worn a white hat

This is why the game is in such a shambles.... people like you sticking their heads in the sand hoping it will all go away when they pop back up.
its like the days of Dougie forbes and J Binskin paying for leads and controlling races when no pressure was applied everyone knew but the kickbacks were too big to complain.
what about the bloke in the 80s who could not sit in but all of a sudden he became friends with "the croc palmer"through playing 2up and his horses would run through brick walls and get help from others in the race while pumped up with gear.all of you on here surely know the lead was up for grabs at the right price for decades.

the game has been rotten for a long long time and you want a bloke who was privy to inside information conducting a enquiry hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

Before you say why didnt i complain about the rorts in the 80s.... well i was making a big earn getting the mail about them myself and have watched it all over again for years to come.dont blame the punters no rort can take place without a corrupt trainer,driver,or steward.anyone who knows beforehand and dosnt get on the gravy train is a complete mug.

99% of trainers/drivers are hard working people, its the 1% who control these rorts that need to be outed for life.
if they let this father/son team continue in the game then they are supporting rorting themself.

[JCT2011]

Gleeson gets life for the superfecta rort. Surely, life from the industry is the least we can expect for these grubs?

[JCT2011]

Interesting to also read in page 108 of the Daily Telegraph yesterday, that a 'high profile media identity' has also been asked for records. Obviously not indicating of any involvement, but now looking back at a few things over the past 12 months, It makes a fair bit of sense!

[Mark Croatto]

[QUOTE=ringman;10254]Triplev123

Before you say why didnt i complain about the rorts in the 80s.... well i was making a big earn getting the mail about them myself and have watched it all over again for years to come.dont blame the punters no rort can take place without a corrupt trainer,driver,or steward.anyone who knows beforehand and dosnt get on the gravy train is a complete mug.

Yeah, the way I see it all it makes you is an accessory after the fact! No better than those who pulled the scam! I suppose using the language found on this forum - SCUM comes to mind!!!!!

Sleep well

[triplev123]

Ringman, it is a nothing short deplorable tactic that you adopt here.
Instead of lining up on the parade of shitbags... who's greed and apparent total lack of empathy for their fellow participants & for those whom they were officially charged with protecting...those that served to create this unholy mess in the first place, you instead question the fella at the centre of trying to clean up?
As I said, you should be ashamed of yourself and I'll now add completely & utterly.

[David Summers]

Ringman, it is a nothing short deplorable tactic that you adopt here.
Instead of lining up on the parade of shitbags... who's greed and apparent total lack of empathy for their fellow participants & for those whom were officially charged with protecting...served to create this unholy mess in the first place, you instead question the fella at the centre of trying to clean up?
As I said, you should be ashamed of yourself and I'll now add completely & utterly.

Amen to that triple , well said. On behalf of all those on these harness forums ( other than the two other stooges in other threads operating to protect the scumbags) , ringman, please go away. Your mobile must be ringing non-stop advising you of your next opportunity to make yet another dishonest buck. You sound like you are very proud of yourself. No you are an absolute d!ckhead aligning yourself with the dishonesty of these scumbags to make another quick buck. It's clear to all what your (obviously paid) agenda is here. Get lost , we don't need any more of your cr@p.

[Diesel]

If the shoe Fitz Ringman...??????????????

[triplev123]

Cheers. Hold the line Ozninja. Keep the faith.

[David Summers]

Cheers. Hold the line Ozninja. Keep the faith.

triple , you can absolutely rely on me doing that. In my life , I have never felt more militant or passionate than I do now about this current scandal and those trying to sidetrack the investigation with their utter BS.