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    Ringman

    Just in case you have not worked it out yet yourself you are going to need a rort to get your argument home .

    Looks to me like you came of the arm running but so far every other runner in the race has had a chop at you, so its been no easy lead for you, however like most leaders who get pressured you will hit the wall.

    We all only hope its soon

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    Quote Originally Posted by jct2011 View Post
    maybe its because here in nsw we have actually found someone, who cares and loves the sport as we do.
    [vvv] testify jct! Amen.

    Over the years i have been sick and tired of seeing these 'blue collar corporates' come in and try and run the joint.
    The biggest joke i have ever seen in nsw was the appointment of max pool. That bloke did not know one inch about racing.

    [vvv] a bit harsh. Max was ok. Admittedly he didn't understand racing & moreso the people in it in the way someone that had long been close to or that was born into the industry would have...but from what i knew & saw of him he did give of his best and his intentions, at times they were misguided, were always honourable.

    the biggest joke of all here in nsw, the single biggest insult of and to the industry was the nsw dept. Of gaming & racing's absurd jobs for the boys creation, the ghrra.
    from start to finish that was an absolute & utter debacle.

    there was a bit of a shocker after the fact too. Elvis' e-mail address actually remained active for a good many months after he had officially left the building (& this i know to be the case because i used to regularly send him e-mails of the 'don't let the door whack you in the backside as you leave' kind & they never once bounced), as did his remote access remain active afterwards as i understand, this from a former it employee of the ghrra.
    i ended up writing to the gaming & racing minsiter at the time, kevin greene, & alerting him to the fact that the e-mail & remote access were apparently still active & very shortly afterwards it was shut down. I have his reply here somewhere. Nice bloke.
    clearly, to my mind, somone in there was going all out behind the scenes to 'keep the dream alive' for 'elvis' despite him having left the building. what the hell was going on there one wonders?
    was old mate seeking to somehow rise, phoenix like, from the ashes of that organisation to head up the now hrnsw? Geeze, that doesn't bare thinking about.

    added to that, how perriously close did we go to getting yet another department of gaming & racing flunky in the big chair...and i wonder where would we have been right now had that occurred?

    i know the answer to the first part of that question....we went very, very close, we were within a bee's todger of getting one of their long term flunkies (not elvis) back for a 2nd run at it...but thankfully, at the 11th hour that absolute catastrophe was averted and instead, we got sam.
    a lot of industry participants here in nsw were not aware at the time and i'm sure many of them are still not not aware of just how close we came to disaster in that regard.
    when i later found out who had thrown their hats into the ring, who was the preferred candidate as far as the nsw gaming & racing dept. Was concerned and so on, i have to say...it was what i expect waking up from a good and restful night's sleep to find that, during the night the earth had narrowly avoided a collision with an asteroid the size of tasmania...would be like. In time, those persons responsible for respectively alerting and diverting the preferred candidate and then looking outside the square should have medals pinned to their chest and their images cast in bronze.


    sam has the knowledge and the passion to make this industry thrive. And thats what we want! And this has been clearly demonstrated with the way he has handled this whole scandal.
    [vvv] indeed. Those who underestimate him do so at their peril.
    vvv
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    Thanks triple. Preaching to the converted here. Hey everyone, let's move on from this. We have been completely , and I believe quite deliberately , sidetracked here in this thread by one moron and we do not need whatsoever to have to defend the integrity of Sam or the current investigations. Anyone trying the blacken the name of the investigators or the investigation has their own set agenda.

    Let's just turn off ringman's oxygen tank.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JCT2011 View Post
    Sam has the knowledge and the passion to make this industry thrive. and thats what we want! and this has been clearly demonstrated with the way he has handled this whole scandal.
    No doubt he has a passion for the industry im not disputing that but that dosnt alter the fact of what was going on when he was punting and he took advantage of it.anyone who for one minute thinks Sam will stop the rorting better think again.the only way this game can survive is for the coppers to take control of all investigations.

    ozninja

    Let's just turn off ringman's oxygen tank
    Why Mrs Nati is baby sam gasping for air and he needs a new tank?

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    Hubby and I have been long-time viewers of this forum - Triple v's comment inspired me to join and make my first post - hubby would've but he has Errol Flynn fingers as far as keyboards go.

    Yes the current scandal is bad and yes we want the perpetrators named, shamed and severely dealt with. There is another danger though that I've noticed starting to creep into some of the SMH and Telegraph articles regarding answers being required as to how this situation was allowed to arise. It's been 2 years since the GHRRA was booted into orbit and I'd wager some of that Board and management would now be telling all and sundry in government and the media that their concerns about the commercial Board with no regulatory experience running the industry are now vindicated.

    The worse the scandal gets once the big names are revealed, the worse the current administration is going to look. They will deservedly get points for cleaning things up if they can make any charges stick but they'll also get marked down for not picking up on a situation that had been going on for so long. What scares us the most is that we could see a knee-jerk reaction from the Minister and Dept resulting in a GHRRA Mk2 with some old familiar faces on board. I dearly hope this doesn't occur as the scandal has put us back enough without another administrative/organisational reform.

    I hope my post makes sense and contributes to this forum.

    And could we leave personalities out of things. We know Mr Nati and Mr Pool well and both are absolute gentlemen who give/gave 110% to the job, each with their own strengths and weaknesses, under different sets of circumstances. We could do and have done much worse in recent history.

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    Quote Originally Posted by coldshot View Post
    The worse the scandal gets once the big names are revealed, the worse the current administration is going to look. They will deservedly get points for cleaning things up if they can make any charges stick but they'll also get marked down for not picking up on a situation that had been going on for so long. .
    Nice post and its good to see you are a thinker

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    what i cant understand, greyhounds victoria had found stewards and a handicapper betting on races at exactly the same time as this, hardly a word about that anywhere

    just glad this hasn't gone the way of the hush up

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    It's a different Code but the current uproar has many things in common with old mate Rodney Pottter and his dastardly dishlicker deeds back in 1994-2000. http://www.abc.net.au/7.30/stories/s127979.htm

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    Quote Originally Posted by triplev123 View Post
    It's a different Code but the current uproar has many things in common with old mate Rodney Pottter and his dastardly dishlicker deeds back in 1994-2000. http://www.abc.net.au/7.30/stories/s127979.htm
    thanks for that vvv - i think that's my greatest concern - Potter situation went to ICAC which recommended changes which ultimately produced HRNSW, GRNSW and the GHRRA - there's usually some fallout from these things and Ministers and bureaucrats do so love to be seen to 'be doing something'. At least the current situation won't go to ICAC but if the corruption is as widespread as it seems with very prominent people within and outside the sport involved, we might get a public inquiry into the administration.

    I'd like to see the grubs and profiteers exposed and rubbed out, and then the focus returned to rebuilding without any more restructuring. IMO we've had enough of that the last 10-11 years.

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    The only issue here is are we going to have the big names covered up. This has happened on several occasions over the last few years to keep integrity intact. There have been positive swabs from high profile people in the Industry swept under the rug...
    Mr X and his father have no doubt pulled this card.
    As has the leading driver with his high profile lawyer...........

    Its time these people manned up and identified themselves. Then and only then will there be no rumour and innuendo.

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