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[triplev123]

like 99% of users in the forums , we put on our glasses and read the instruction from the forum administrators at the top of the page and followed the directions. We did not behave like childish babies using silly names.
[vvv] we don't share the same sense of humour apparently.

i did not make the rules , the administrators did, but note in the forum pole you voted "yes" and agreed that you would continue posting if you had to show your real name. I don't know why it is such a big deal. You received a warning in one of the threads from admin and most probably you were contacted direct. I am not here to have a debate with you.
[vvv] we don't share the same sense of irony either apparently.

i have enjoyed many of your posts and have enjoyed interacting with you in these forums over the past few months. There are a lot more important things to discuss at the moment.
[vvv] Aint that the truth. Teetering on a precipice is a good description in some respects.
The way forward here in NSW is what needs to be focussed on. I came across one of the blokes who's widely said to have been involved in all this while I was at Penrith the other night. I've known him for a quite long time, since his school days, and he has driven for us and for mates of mine in the distant and more recent past and I've been as mad as all Hell at him since I first heard of his alleged connection.
Up close, one on one, no one else around and you know...it was a bit uncomfortable but I ended up just saying g'day and making a bit of small talk about a stallion that was in one of the sire's brochures that was left on the bench. It surprised me. It was a lot harder than I thought to be pissed off at someone that you've admired and been friends with for so long as opposed to being pissed off at someone you've never liked to begin with. I think he knew by the look on my face that I was disappointed, I hope that he did. It is an awful damned business all this crap. The collateral damage is going to be something to behold.

moving on , hopefully, i heard mention that all cctv footage from menangle over the last few months has been called for in the current investigation. Apparently some of it is quite explosive in those that are seen within the videos before particular races. I have only been told this second hand and wondered if you have seen this printed anywhere?
[vvv] haven't heard the cctv thing but would not be at all suprised if it is correct. Regular attendees have mentioned that certain entities would make cameo appearances for no (at the time) fathomable reason/s. Hindsight perhaps serves to place these 'frank sinatra at sancturay cove' routines in context however.

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[triplev123]

While I think of it too, triple, I note on the NZ forum that you have been a critic of Auckland Reactor in the past. What did you make of his win last Friday? I thought was very impressive , especially from the standing start.

[VVV] Not a fan of the mercurial AR. I also have significant doubts that he ever had a dose of colitus-x. I've seen it up close & personal and they don't put their heads out over the stall door, eyes bright, ears pricked and wearing a heavy blue canvas rug whilst they're suffering the rigours thereof...as was evidenced by the photos of old mate at the time.
That being said, and especially so given old mate Kelvin's VERY lackluster efforts with the horse when he was in the USA, just to get AR back to the track & firing at any level off the back of such a campaign, let alone to win one with him whilst in against that level of company, was without any shadow of a doubt one of the all-time great training performances from Mark Purdon. If the horse can go on from there, who knows? One FFA in a race where a few of the heavy hitters seemed to have missed away/had a few traffic issues is one thing. A New Zealand Cup would silence all.

[David Summers]

I can't believe how settled AR was in the run , compared to how he used to race. If he has finally got his head together , and naturally this is just one race, we can look forward to exciting times ahead.

We may not agree on some things triple, but Mark's training performance to do what he did with AR in his performance in this race , was really extraordinary.

[triplev123]

I missed this race first time around but a mate of mine suggested that I should go & have a look at it and compare it to the drive which spawned this thread.
Check out Nicole Mollander's drive on Neffeli Lavra in Race 3 at Menangle on Tuesday September 27th, 2011. To me, almost drive for drive as far as a lack of vigour over the concluding stages but she wins it. Now if she were to get beaten there instead of winning by a Tally-Ho paper...I wonder, does she also score 12 months on the sidelines?
Horse has got a big-arse Murphy Blind there so it's a fair thing that maybe it didn't see the opposition coming & it sure battled back like that was the case after being well headed...but again, really close to the line she just stops driving it. Dunno. More the horse than the driver maybe? Weird one that.

[Greg Hando]

I see the horse hangs in a bit she might want to try the Murphy on the other side very cool drive i don't think she saw the horse coming

[strong persuader]

I missed this race first time around but a mate of mine suggested that I should go & have a look at it and compare it to the drive which spawned this thread.
Check out Nicole Mollander's drive on Neffeli Lavra in Race 3 at Menangle on Tuesday September 27th, 2011. To me, almost drive for drive as far as a lack of vigour over the concluding stages but she wins it. Now if she were to get beaten there instead of winning by a Tally-Ho paper...I wonder, does she also score 12 months on the sidelines?
Horse has got a big-arse Murphy Blind there so it's a fair thing that maybe it didn't see the opposition coming & it sure battled back like that was the case after being well headed...but again, really close to the line she just stops driving it. Dunno. More the horse than the driver maybe? Weird one that.

This was mentioned in an interview by Bill Galway on TrotsTV. He said that the horse got on its knee and was full of praise for how NM kept it together and got it home.

[triplev123]

This was mentioned in an interview by Bill Galway on TrotsTV. He said that the horse got on its knee and was full of praise for how NM kept it together and got it home.

[VVV] I'm going to have to watch that race again Phil. If it got on a knee then it did so with such a feather-like touch that I missed it completely. To me it looked more like it just didn't see the horse to its outside until said horse had gone near on a length past it. That Murphy Blind was a whopper...looked like the lid off my Otto Bin.

[Mark Croatto]

I missed this race first time around but a mate of mine suggested that I should go & have a look at it and compare it to the drive which spawned this thread.
Check out Nicole Mollander's drive on Neffeli Lavra in Race 3 at Menangle on Tuesday September 27th, 2011. To me, almost drive for drive as far as a lack of vigour over the concluding stages but she wins it. Now if she were to get beaten there instead of winning by a Tally-Ho paper...I wonder, does she also score 12 months on the sidelines?
Horse has got a big-arse Murphy Blind there so it's a fair thing that maybe it didn't see the opposition coming & it sure battled back like that was the case after being well headed...but again, really close to the line she just stops driving it. Dunno. More the horse than the driver maybe? Weird one that.

G'day Jaimie

I was there and watched the finish to that race and even though it is hardly discernible on the video replay she kept flicking it over the last 50 metres. They were only light taps but tap it she most certainly did.

Regards

Mark

[triplev123]

Cheers Mark,
I certainly can't make that out from the video and not that I doubt Billy either but again I can't see it getting on a knee anywhere at any stage either. Maybe I need to get along to OPSM? That's a fair bet.
Interestingly, there's also not a mention anywhere in the Stewards Report of the obviously significant role the Murphy Blind played there...this despite the rule of the week style 'let's make a big show of it' routine that from time to time goes along with gear change notifications/announcements.
It makes that whole thing a bit of a farce really because if a particular piece of gear clearly makes a significant difference to a given performance (as it did in this case) nowhere is that noted for future reference.
For the sake of the Punters who plonk their $$$$ down next time out, I wonder...wouldn't it be a good idea to make a note somewhere in the previous outing's Stewards Report of the fact that because of the Murphy Blind the mare quite clearly didn't see the opposition coming at her until they were well past her?
Instead it says nothing at all other than the driver was fined for slow sectionals & then on the actual race results only there's a notation that she raced greenly and was warned. That's as helpful as an Axe without a handle.
I find the the subject of gear, gear changes etc. quite interesting because while it is just as vital to the outcome of a race as a change of tactics the emphasis that is placed upon it has always been and continues to be quite clearly significantly less. Perhaps, like the majority of the Punters, a great many of the Stewards simply do not know one piece of gear from another...and have no idea of their functions & so of possible/probable/actual reasons why various bits and pieces are being added or otherwise removed & so on. It's easier to police the slow sectionals or a 'changes of tactics'.

[Flashing Red]

Re the murphy blind: I think that is requires far to much detail on behalf of the steward. You are stepping into the realm of assumptions than fact. There is a difference between informing punters and spoon feeding them. I find the professional punters or big gamblers seem to need less help than the $20 punters...