Charges laid in swabbing scandal

[2minuteman]

[QUOTE=Danno;13611]Gents...please! My sincere apologies to you 2minuteman, my response was about Ron's question about the post put up by Alex123
No, I wasn't offended but you were on the money re Ringman having a go under a new nom-de-forum.

[strong persuader]

[VVV] I have long believed that all Licences should exist 'at the pleasure of the Board' so to speak and to support that we should have a Code of Conduct in place.
You would sign for/take out/renew a Licence under those terms and with the clear understanding that should you choose to take a walk on the wildside...it can be revoked at any time & no subsequent discussions will be entered into. Federal & State Police background checks would be a good addition to this. No wiggle room. None of this I didn't know routine. No bullshit. End of section.

Just as in that other contentious issue, relegation, the rules already exist;

90. (1) The Controlling Body may by licence regulate any activity connected with the harness racing industry.
(2) An application for a licence shall be made by the persons in the manner and form and be accompanied by such documentation, information and fees as the Controlling Body may determine.
(3) A person applying to be relicensed with a Controlling Body shall, if previously licensed by another Controlling Body or recognised harness racing authority, provide a written clearance from that Controlling Body or recognised harness racing authority detailing the status of the person relating to current penalty, debt or other embargo.
(4) The Controlling Body may grant a licence for such period and upon such terms and conditions as it thinks fit.
(5)An application for a licence may be refused by the Controlling Body without assigning any reason.
(6) A licence may be suspended or cancelled:
(a) by the Controlling Body or the Stewards for breach of a term or condition of the licence, or
(b) by the Controlling Body where the Controlling Body is satisfied that the person holding the licence is not a fit and proper person to be associated with harness racing.
(7)The type, grade or class of a licence held by a person may be varied by the Controlling Body or by the Stewards.
(8) The terms or conditions attaching to a type, grade or class of licence may be varied by the Stewards or theControlling Body.

So it is just a matter of applying the rules and letting those that fall foul of them fight them in court if they so choose. I'm sure that most would baulk at the legal expense involved in that pursuit.

[triplev123]

That's true Phil but as super wanky as it sounds, from a Law Talkin' Guy perspective having the racing rules written as such differs greatly to someone signing a Licence application/agreement with full awareness/understanding & by way of a signanture an acceptance of the conditions therein that clearly stipulate the same.

[Daryl New]

Jaimie
from memory, keep in mind I am getting old, we did sign such a document this year before licences were issued.

[Thevoiceofreason]

That's true Phil but as super wanky as it sounds, from a Law Talkin' Guy perspective having the racing rules written as such differs greatly to someone signing a Licence application/agreement with full awareness/understanding & by way of a signanture an acceptance of the conditions therein that clearly stipulate the same.

And for the record most licence forms include a clause that you agree to bound by the rules. Its like everything it can and will be appealed.

[Daryl New]

You been talking to my wife

[David Summers]

Words of support from Harness Racing NZ for investigators currently handling the NSW harness scandal http://www.harnesslink.com/www/Article.cgi?ID=94245

[David Summers]

Also, Sam Nati has just made the following statement about the current investigation http://www.harnesslink.com/www/Article.cgi?ID=94247

[Thevoiceofreason]

Congratulations to the moderators of this forum for so quickly removing the rubbish posted under the name of CEdwards81, where as is his usual rant he states rumors and his opinions as if the are fact and has pot shots at the establishment as they try to clean up the game.

At the risk of upsetting the moderators I have reposted a small section of what he had to say

"Good on the NSW Police for moving ahead and showing harness racing how to run an investigation"

Gee scoop thanks for the information, who would have possibly thought a police force of nearly 16000 officers were better equipped to run an investigation than HRNSW... what a goose.

[David Summers]

Not sure if Admin were online , but I reported the outrageous post a couple of minutes after it was posted and it was quickly removed. Thank you Admin for your quick work.

Chris Edwards , now that you are on an enforced holiday from these forums (hopefully permanent) , time for you to wake up to yourself and stop posting libellous crap.