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    Quote Originally Posted by Lucky Camilla"s Lovechild View Post
    Its 'prison rules' then, is it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by strong persuader View Post
    Sorry but if that is a question to me, you will have to clarify/expand a bit so that I can answer.
    Sorry. Just a comment. Much like the comment above by TFS.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Harold Parker View Post
    That incident occurred when they were crossing the wire at high speed and for whatever reason the horse ducked in very sharply. His drive for a half dozen strides tops was borderline uncontrollable. Was it intentional ? of course not. It was a terrible incident but not premeditated.

    How can you compare that to the drive on ITMQ ? Hall stayed in at the 800 with the intention of rolling out underneath Dasher VC 300m later putting his own drive and Chris Lewis in danger. It wasn't by chance or a freak accident it was intentional. A comparison using your example would be if Pierce was in the pocket and Campbell moved up to his outside, saw him too late and knocked him over at the Half.

    The suggestion that if Dasher VC was going a little better he'd of held his line is total rubbish. If Lewis was a rat bag and drove Dasher VC as nonsensical as Hall drove ITMQ, both horses could quite possibly be buried in the back straight and out of the series. Hall drove a Ferrari F1 like a Datsun 180B at the Parramatta Speedway : )
    Did Hall fall asleep or did he pre-meditate it? Can't be both ways.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aussiebreno View Post
    Did Hall fall asleep or did he pre-meditate it? Can't be both ways.
    He was lazy and cocky. So I'm going $5 EW : )

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    Quote Originally Posted by Harold Parker View Post
    That incident occurred when they were crossing the wire at high speed and for whatever reason the horse ducked in very sharply. His drive for a half dozen strides tops was borderline uncontrollable. Was it intentional ? of course not. It was a terrible incident but not premeditated.

    How can you compare that to the drive on ITMQ ?

    [VVV] I didn't compare the drives. You're the one doing that.
    Right from the outset with my first post to this thead you'll see that I tried to avoid any assessments of the drive. Go back and read it again for your own edification. You then posted that you could 100% guarentee me that Pierce would never be found to be asleep at the wheel.
    The example I gave in reply clearly refuted that statement by way of showing that in that instance Pierce was indeed asleep at the wheel.

    Hall stayed in at the 800 with the intention of rolling out underneath Dasher VC 300m later putting his own drive and Chris Lewis in danger. It wasn't by chance or a freak accident it was intentional.
    [VVV] As I said from the outset, I haven't seen the race/that drive. Still haven't.
    The in's & outs of that particular race are irrelevant to my earlier statement that Jnr's instinctual driving reminds me a lot of Ron Pierce.
    There's no question that both are IMO at their best when they don't over-think their drives too much.

    A comparison using your example would be if Pierce was in the pocket and Campbell moved up to his outside, saw him too late and knocked him over at the Half.
    [VVV] If my filly had balls she'd be a colt. The point being...?

    The suggestion that if Dasher VC was going a little better he'd of held his line is total rubbish. If Lewis was a rat bag and drove Dasher VC as nonsensical as Hall drove ITMQ, both horses could quite possibly be buried in the back straight and out of the series. Hall drove a Ferrari F1 like a Datsun 180B at the Parramatta Speedway : )
    [VVV] Ding Ding Ding. HP...that's the reality check Bell. It's time to acknowledge that was YOUR suggestion, NOT mine. At no stage have I said anything of the sort. At no stage have I commented on the race in question. That is all in your head & contained within your bag of words which you seem so eager to put in my mouth. I merely replied to the title of the thread G. Hall Jnr's driving style. One race does not a style make.
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    Triple, thought you were going to give him a triple there, uppercut!........I will need a triple, if we continue to discuss this incident..........Bypass that is!....Chris Lewis will get pay back........soone or later! There is no excuse for this incident, if every driver did this there would be carnage out on the track......what if something was following Dasher VC, it could have been put on the ground..........did the stewards ask G Hall if he checked his rear vision mirror to see if anything was following DVC...........it all comes down to this, Hall was lucky that DVC only put in a few minor rough steps, and all is well for the final, which is what the people of WA want G Hall Jr & the very ITMQ.......the show must go on!

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    Do you need help finding the replay. You do know we can access replays online now ? : )

    "The example I gave in reply clearly refuted that statement by way of showing that in that instance Pierce was indeed asleep at the wheel."

    Have you watched the replay ? It think not. Pierce is driving his horse to the wire and the horse snaps. No driver in the history of harness racing could of avoided that disaster.

    I'm not getting into a pissing contest with a Super Mod. Only the sharpest tools have that honour bestowed upon them : )

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    Race 3 Gloucester tonight in the home straight, if what Hall jnr does (pushes out like its a demolition derby) if that can be considered fair and sporting, I will eat my hat. That is nothing more than the act of a bully.

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