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    Quote Originally Posted by Lenem View Post
    Stewards dictating tactics? I don't think so !
    Stewards are well within their authority to issue such a warning. they have done it many times. If they believe that the driver is not giving the horse the best chance in a race they can take direct action against the driver.
    If they determine that the trainer's instructions are contrary to giving the horse the best chance ina race they can act against the trainer.

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    Where do you stop ? How many times (a meeting) have you said to yourself "driver X should have done this or shouldn't have done that ?" I think it's totally unreasonable for anyone other than connections to decide how a horse should be driven.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lenem View Post
    Where do you stop ? How many times (a meeting) have you said to yourself "driver X should have done this or shouldn't have done that ?" I think it's totally unreasonable for anyone other than connections to decide how a horse should be driven.
    Yeah precisely this. I mean if a trainer has two stablemates in the race one can be driven however they like to set it up for the other. Trainers decision.

    *sarcasm*

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    Maybe the Chief Steward should issue a set of instructions before each race.These could even be published alongside the form guide.Surely you are not suggesting that "team driving" actaually goes on ?
    (more sarcasm)

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    Hey Guys, there is a rule that states the driver must give his horse every chance......there is NOT a rule that says the driver must obey driving instructions.
    The driver should be in strife with the stipes, and maybe the trainer, but definitley the driver , if he hasn't got the stuff to tell the trainer he won't butcher it, then don't drive it, it's not compulsory to accept a drive!
    To me, this is why you have drivers...for people who can't do it themselves.
    Last edited by Danno; 02-25-2012 at 03:05 AM.

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    One thing for sure......Has The Answers is a great horse!......he gets bottomed out from the start more often than not.......leads from any gate...this would normally take its toll over time to be able to back-up run after run..........A month or so ago I thought the horse was flat and then he came out and won the Consolation of the WA Pacing Cup over 2500....but he had a nice 32 quarter at the beginning of the last mile and sprinted home in 56.8........I WOULD HAVE THOUGHT THAT "BLIND HARRY" WOULD KNOW YOU GIVE YOUR HORSE AS EASY A RUN AS POSSIBLE WHEN LEADING.....ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU BURN OUT OF THE GATE........EVEN SMOKEN UP DOESN'T EMPTY THE TANK UNLESS HE HAS TOO!........LAST NIGHT WAS LIKE HE WAS THE PACESETTER IN A WORLD RECORD ATTEMPT.........HE BROKE 30 FOR HIS FIRST 2 QUARTERS OF THE MILE, ONLY SMOKEN UP BROKE A QUARTER IN LESS THAN 30 OF ALL THE HEATS LAST NIGHT.......AFTER THE WARNING GIVEN A COUPLE OF WEEKS BY THE STEWARDS, PRIOR TO LAST NIGHT RACE ABOUT DRIVING THIS WAY......WHAT ARE THE STEWARDS GOING TO DO???????????? LET'S WAIT FOR THE STEWARDS REPORT, UNLESS SOMEONE HAS ALREADY HEARD!!!!!!!
    THE TRAINER IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THE TACTICS GIVEN TO HIS DRIVER, UNLESS HE SAYS I'LL LEAVE IT TO YOU......WHAT'S THE POINT!!!

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    I was at Gloucester Park last night. You guys querying the Has The Answers drive are missing the obvious. A few of us were talking about it before the race and loaded up on Mr Feelgood, saved on Cromac Johnny and hit the Quinella. Missed the Tri : (

    Mysta Magical Mach was on the precipice on gaining a start "IF" Dasher VC punctured. Who trains MMM and HTA ? It was a carbon copy of the previous clash where they "hooked up". I was surprised Lewis fell for it but if you'd heard the roasting he copped from the locals after his drive on Crombie, I guess he had no choice.

    A rough couple of days for A C Lewis.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Harold Parker View Post
    I was at Gloucester Park last night. You guys querying the Has The Answers drive are missing the obvious. A few of us were talking about it before the race and loaded up on Mr Feelgood, saved on Cromac Johnny and hit the Quinella. Missed the Tri : (

    Mysta Magical Mach was on the precipice on gaining a start "IF" Dasher VC punctured. Who trains MMM and HTA ? It was a carbon copy of the previous clash where they "hooked up". I was surprised Lewis fell for it but if you'd heard the roasting he copped from the locals after his drive on Crombie, I guess he had no choice.

    A rough couple of days for A C Lewis.
    Bewildering drive from C.Lewis; Crombie went to the line full of running. Maybe he wanted to avoid a speed duel with AR with the final next week. Certainly had a fairly easy run and if there was a real smoky for the final Crombie could be the one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Danno View Post
    Guys, he's entitled ( and to a certain extent expected) to try and get his horse out and give it a chance, the fact was the horse outside him was travelling just as strong/weak as his own and thats why he didn't succeed.
    There was nothing dangerous or foul about it. Admitedly,it didn't LOOK pretty, but safe enough IMO.
    If that was my horse and he didn't at least have a crack at getting out he'd be sacked, either on suspicion or for incompetence, he could take his pick.
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    Gday Dan, My internets playing up so just quickly. His drive is without doubt an act of selfish, bullying that displays no respect for his rivals.

    Go back to Menangle 28/1 Race 7 and watch Mitch Reese try to get off the pegs. Unsuccessful with his jostling he has to wait until the run comes. His drive was patient, competitive and sporting. He showed respect for his rivals. One bloke applies reasonable pressure, the other bloke thinks its Ok to drive straight into your rival after hooking out with the right rein.

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    Quote Originally Posted by broncobrad View Post
    Gday Dan, My internets playing up so just quickly. His drive is without doubt an act of selfish, bullying that displays no respect for his rivals.

    Go back to Menangle 28/1 Race 7 and watch Mitch Reese try to get off the pegs. Unsuccessful with his jostling he has to wait until the run comes. His drive was patient, competitive and sporting. He showed respect for his rivals. One bloke applies reasonable pressure, the other bloke thinks its Ok to drive straight into your rival after hooking out with the right rein.
    G'day Brad,
    like everyone else mate you're entitled to your opinion. I think, as I said, it was ugly but not dangerous. I have served that up and copped it plenty of times from people who know how to do it safely with no problems, it's when you get idiots trying it and don't know when and where it's unsafe that you run into problems and someone ends up on the deck.
    as i've stated earlier I'm neither a fan nor a detractor of GH Jnr, but that's twice in the last couple of weeks we've seen him trying to push clear and so far he's displayed in my opinion he knows how to do it safely, many do not.

    Cheers,
    Dan.

    PS you'll have me by the short and curlies if he decks someone pushing out...stay tuned.LOL.

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