Smolda simply breathtaking

[little fish]

Let me be generous by not reading between the lines of this posting.
Suffice to say that NSW has a very long way to go to match the drug testing regime of the NZ RIU and especially on big days like this.
All hands on deck to supervise...
Pre race blood testing ALL Runners.
Post race blood testing selected random runners.
Post race swabs of first 2 home all races.
That comes after out of competition testing all runners often more than once in the weeks leading up to the event.

In Aust Rules Football (AFL) Ben Cousins was regularly tested, never failed a drug test, but was actually a drug addict who was using the whole time.

Explain that?

[teecee]

I fail to see the relevance of what testing AFL has here.
The point I make is that HRNSW has a long way to go to be anywhere near the toughest drugs testing regime in Harness Racing.
I backed my view with the testing regime on Jewels day. Such is not uncommon in NZ.
drugs testing on small rated tracks at small meetings is tougher than what I can deduce from some meetings at Menangle.
There has been plenty of comment opposing the idea of spending some of the riches on integrity at the expense of stakes in NSW last year.
As I said I have responded directly to a statement rather than READ BETWEEN the LINES...!!

[aussiebreno]

I fail to see the relevance of what testing AFL has here.
The point I make is that HRNSW has a long way to go to be anywhere near the toughest drugs testing regime in Harness Racing.
I backed my view with the testing regime on Jewels day. Such is not uncommon in NZ.
drugs testing on small rated tracks at small meetings is tougher than what I can deduce from some meetings at Menangle.
There has been plenty of comment opposing the idea of spending some of the riches on integrity at the expense of stakes in NSW last year.
As I said I have responded directly to a statement rather than READ BETWEEN the LINES...!!

Not drawing into the Smolda debate here but I thought 'little fish's' point was pretty straighforward, you can be using but go undetected.

[Viv Strangman]

Please let us all in on what drugs you can use and not be detected. I am intrigued as to what drugs you are referring to.

[aussiebreno]

Please let us all in on what drugs you can use and not be detected. I am intrigued as to what drugs you are referring to.

Not telling you or the stewards will be on my door and I won't get as many winners.......

Ok, no seriously...

Number one case can be the blue magic scandal (I didn't choose this because Mark Purdon was involved, just because it was the first to pop in my head)....they could detect something was wrong but didn't know what it was for a while. So while people were using blue magic they weren't getting positives because nobody knew what it was and what tests to do.
Number two case being the time spent between realising EPO was occuring and the time spent figuring out a test for it. In any form of cheating, the cheats are always one step ahead of the police. When a substance has a test made for it the cheats move onto a new substance. The time in leui in creating a test can means horses/athletes don't return positives.

Also, from just 7 or how many it is viles of blood they take plus 1 cup of urine. Do you think they can test for a bucketload of substances with just those small samples?

[aussiebreno]

Also, I must comment on the threads purpose. Awesome performance from Smolda.

[little fish]

Let's start with ITTP? I'm no chemist but I'm sure if this one has recently become detectable it won't be long before something else comes along.

http://www.breedingracing.com/news/2...ast-drug-ittp/

Stewards On "High Alert For Go-Fast Drug ITTP"

Thursday, 31st May 2012
The "go-fast drug ITTP, described by one vet as a high-octane milkshake in a syringe, has arrived in Australia" reported The Herald-Sun. Racing NSW chief steward Ray Murrihy said the drug (formulated in France & until recently undetectable) has arrived in Australia & when "asked if it was being administered" he replied: "If you ask me has it landed on our shores, it certainly has. Whether in thoroughbred racing it has been used, what I would say if it hasn't been used, I would suspect it would not take too long to change." Murrihy described ITTP (a drug that causes the haemoglobin in blood to release oxygen in amounts substantially greater than normal, instantly enhancing physical performance) as a "real nasty". Murrihy confirmed this month's national stewards' conference had "discussed the development of testing for New Age substances such as ITTP & strategies on how to stop it entering the country". He emphasised: "These are the sort of substances that can change the playing field, the integrity of racing. We have established good channels with some entities around Australia to keep an eye on these substances being imported. Stewards are well aware that there are plenty of websites that advertise these products." Murrihy also noted that "swab samples from every Gr1 winner at the Sydney Autumn Carnival had been frozen".

[mango]

Also, I must comment on the threads purpose. Awesome performance from Smolda.

Hey Breno

I was trackside and it was an amazing performance, everyone was on there feet cheering the horse home. The whole Jewels day was amazing and i will be going again for sure.

[aussiebreno]

Hey Breno

I was trackside and it was an amazing performance, everyone was on there feet cheering the horse home. The whole Jewels day was amazing and i will be going again for sure.

You really do live the life mango and know how to rub it in!

[broncobrad]

Also, I must comment on the threads purpose. Awesome performance from Smolda.

Thanks for bringing the thread back to what it was intended. To recognise a brilliant performance.