Reply With QuoteInteresting to note that in the 2011 Vic Cup when Smoken Up set the track record of 1.53.4 his lead time from the 1 gate was only 43.5. Thats still some 20m slower than this year.
Just stating the facts.
Hey Ron,Originally Posted by 2minuteman
Find me another horse that has led out at Melton in 41.9 and been beaten 5m rating 1.53.7 over 2240m? The next fastest lead time last night over the same trip was some 3.2 sec slower (approx 40m) and that horse ran 82m last in a race that rated 1.57.5?
I'm not a Quinny fan, I backed Terrorway (who also went enormous IMO) and was cheering for Smoken Up also but I think all the flack Quinn is coping is a bit ridiculous. All things considered i believe his run was very good. I also think 4 or 5 other horses ran super races as well.
Overall it was a hot race and as always the best horse on the night won.
Benefit for all Quinny fans is that you now get a juicy price for the Interdom. Take it while you can.
Mitch.
Interesting to note that in the 2011 Vic Cup when Smoken Up set the track record of 1.53.4 his lead time from the 1 gate was only 43.5. Thats still some 20m slower than this year.
Just stating the facts.
It should also be noted that Aussiebreno is currently 5th on the HRV goodform tipping comp after last night.
Well done - a terrific effort!
I hope the wallet is a bit heavier as well.
Mitch.
Has he been on the forum since the Blaster did the right thing for him or is he still drinking the profits, still dizzy with his new found fame? I am gonna start using horoscopes or numerology or something, my crystal ball is definitely malfunctioning at present.
My take is the race lived up to everything plus more, fireworks from the start, nobody got any favours, it was just a fan-bloody-tastic race. For Carribean Blaster he got dealt all the aces last night. Crap gate, drove for luck, capitalised on extreme pace, overcome slight setback in NZ, come on you guys, atleast no-one has knocked him. It has always been a tough, hard race and last night was a classic. Jealous of all you S.O.Bs who were lucky enough to be there.
I thought Terrorway, IMTQ and Smoken all contributed to making the race a class act. Bitobliss is not right, hope they get on top of it and Sushi has not made the next step up to be competitive at this level.
Dec Jasper race 2.3 seconds slower by mile rate but the Dec Jasper race was only 0.7 seconds slower by last mile. Also, the Dec Jasper race lead time 4.3 seconds slower.
Terrorway was in the leaders and Carribean Blaster couldn't run him down last week at Cranbourne. Terrorway was again in the leaders but Carribean Blaster made it a 16m turnaround in one week.
All that says the leaders in the Vic Cup had no chance.
Not just beaten but look how far back Bitobliss (prob not at his best), Washakie and Pembrook Benny were beaten (obviously were wide and working - but they were beaten a long way).
You don't see horses sit 3 wide for 2 laps and run past or stick on with the leaders. That happened in the Vic Cup. Yet again, saying it wasn't a race for leaders. (That's not discounting the runs of Blaster and Trigger - they went bloody huge)
Even if you look at Melpark Major. He couldn't run past Terrorway last week after having the easiest run imaginable. Hence he started $115. But he ran on good from the back and out wide and ended up beating Terrorway home. It just wasn't a race to be on pace after they burned.
For ITMQ to just go down like that has made me even more confident for the Interdom, especially now he is $3.40. He is the best horse in the land. If anybody wants to offer better than $3.40 come forth now.
What he said!
Come on Brenno, you cant be serious!
Quinn had the sit behind the leader, he had every chance, he has the fastest coiled up sprint of any horse, it was ideal, he had the barrier. He sat there for 1700m doin nothin.
Its a bit like you have fallen in love with a Super Model and you are star-struck or should i say pu**y whipped! You're blinded by the aura.
If he cant win that race being the Almighty Quinn and the hype that comes with him, seriously you have to question where the relationship between you and him is going!!
You poor guy, you had a date and walked away with blue ba**s!
For the whole race i thought he would pop out and win by 10m, it was a formality, but....pop, fizzle, nuthin.
For what is worth, for me a true Champion is one that can do it both ends of a race, that makes them so great. From what we saw on Saturday IMQ is purely a sit sprinter, ran similar type of race in the MM when used early.
Lol nice post!Come on Brenno, you cant be serious!
Quinn had the sit behind the leader, he had every chance, he has the fastest coiled up sprint of any horse, it was ideal, he had the barrier. He sat there for 1700m doin nothin.
Its a bit like you have fallen in love with a Super Model and you are star-struck or should i say pu**y whipped! You're blinded by the aura.
If he cant win that race being the Almighty Quinn and the hype that comes with him, seriously you have to question where the relationship between you and him is going!!
You poor guy, you had a date and walked away with blue ba**s!
For the whole race i thought he would pop out and win by 10m, it was a formality, but....pop, fizzle, nuthin.
My date was with Carribean Blaster though, got to home base as well mind you (see my selection thread).
However, there is no doubt in my mind that ITMQ is the best horse in the country. Swap his run with Carribean Blaster and Quinny wins hands down.
It's something like 7-2 in Quinnys favour now V Smoken Up. I think that says a great deal when those two have been the dominate horses since BAFs departure. You might favour Smoken Ups dogged courage and never say die attitude better but you can't deny ITMQ is a superb horse.
So how about it, the 'heartless' one is at $3.40 with TAB, what will you give me?
Just read this in stewards report.
Bitobliss and Pembrook Benny NZ both underwent post-race veterinary examinations which revealed Bitobliss to be lame in the off foreleg and Pembrook Benny NZ to be lame in the near hind leg. Both horses have now been stood down from racing until receipt of a veterinary clearance.
Also... based on sectional times for race they just sent out, Terrorways lead time 41.9. So my maths (and it's not real good!) says Caribbean Blasters 43.54. He was near last at the mile from memory so all the others must have times somewhere in between.
Caribbean Blaster last mile 1.54.76
Smoken Up 1.55.81
Melpark Major 1.55.91
Mah Sish 1.56.14
ITMQ 1.56.48
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