Sires 13/14

[LisaB25]

Another new sire to come down under this season after injury sees him retire
Betterthancheddar to stand at alabar
People's opinions on this fella ?

[Richard prior]

Hi Lisa, click on the USA icon, Betterthancheddar is mentioned in 1 of the Forums. Richard

[Viv Strangman]

[VVV] G'day Tony. I'd be very surpised if he served many mares here & by that I mean that if he exceeds 20 for mine he's doing well.
The reasons why the horse got his arse handed to him during the QLD ID and then got it handed to him again when he went to the US aside....I think it all comes down to the fact that if his connections had instead left Mark Purdon alone and allowed him to manage the horse's career...they'd have ended up with a much better result over the longer term.
Added to that....for crying out loud...the excuse machine that followed his every step, breath & crap. JESUS WEPT! If anyone set out to get the people to start shouting BULLSHIT! from the grandstands no better road map for achieving that could've possibly been produced.

Grant makes a very good point above.
Artistic Fella has made an excellent debut here and they give every indication to me that they will go on as 3yos & beyond.
Racehorse wise, no contest. Artistic Fella was the real deal, a 3-headed Gorilla. Auckland Reactor wouldn't have known which way he went. No contest there.
One thing though. Although all we have to judge a potential sire on when he heads to stud is of course his racetrack career, in the end they all become Non-Winners again in the Breeding Barn.
A truly great sire will overcome all, small books of mixed quality mares, a lack of opportunity for their progeny, the lot.
Consider Christian Cullen & Elsu as examples. Both terrific racehorses. Christian Cullen's initial opportunities were by no means luxurious but he overcame. Elsu's initial opportunities were far better in terms of overall mare quality and numbers but he did little or one nothing. They've either got it or they haven't.

Not a bad effort at all. Only 162 more than you thought he would get. The leading sire by number of mares bred. So much for having the finger on the pulse.

[Viv Strangman]

Viv I'm pretty sure Artistic Fella is still at Empire... Also, AR failed sensationally at two out of three places he went to. Mr FG failed at one out of three, and hardly as disgustingly as AR did he when he had heat applied. These things stick in Aussies minds. I thought 20 mares at best in Aus and NZ!

Whoops. Another one to have his finger on the pulse of Australian breeders.

[Gtrain]

Whoops. Another one to have his finger on the pulse of Australian breeders.

Good luck to all 180odd of them. Look forward to running past them.....

[Triple V]

Not a bad effort at all. Only 162 more than you thought he would get. The leading sire by number of mares bred. So much for having the finger on the pulse.

VVV- Apparently there are significantly more masochists in this Country than I thought there were. Between AUS and NZ the horse covered 392 mares at $3,000 a shot less discounts. Jesus wept. The upside of course is that, like Grant, I'm pleased that there'll be some 300 odd 2yos ours from the 2014/15 season foal crop that ours won't have to worry about come their 2016/17 season racetrack debuts.

[aussiebreno]

Grant and Jaimie, aren't you worried that with the advent of the Flying K, by 2016/17 there could only be short dog racing distances. If this eventuates then I reckon the Auckland Reactors might just have a fighting chance.

[Triple V]

...that the Horse served as many as he did is testimony to the efforts of the crew at Alabar to make it so.
When it comes to filling a debut sire's initial book/s they'll move Heaven and Earth to get it done. This is underlined once again by Betterthancheddar still serving 200+ between AUS and NZ despite not arriving and getting underway until late October. Btw.. THERE is a Horse that is going to make a splash.

[Triple V]

Grant and Jaimie, aren't you worried that with the advent of the Flying K, by 2016/17 there could only be short dog racing distances. If this eventuates then I reckon the Auckland Reactors might just have a fighting chance.

VVV- Some of your best work there Breno. Got 2 with the one rock.

[Viv Strangman]

VVV- Some of your best work there Breno. Got 2 with the one rock.

Notice all you knowledgeable gentlemen don't actually have a clue what you are talking about. In fact Jamie you said in one of your posts that you would be staggered if he served more than twenty. Only out by 162. I wondered if you had any knowledge of the breeding scene in Australia and now I know the answer.