He's baaaack!

[Messenger]

Not at all Kevin. I love all animals, regardless of having a soft spot for some more than others. I'm making a valid point. If Quinny was to be in the breeze, the chances are very high he would have compounded, that goes the same if he got the lead.
MB was the best run in the race by far, and he just got beat from the best sit sprinter in Australasia. I suppose it comes down to personal preference in what constitutes a great horse or a great race. I say it again, Cockburn's decision was a very poor one, common sense should have prevailed but it didn't for some bizarre reason. I also take it that if it's not that hard for a good driver to take a sit, then Cockburn was handed that from GHJ, yet decided to reciprocate out of his selflessness and good will..

Evangelos, this post makes it perfectly clear that you have a problem with Quinny and the emboldened part should have a massive IMO

As much as it comes down to personal preference as to what constitutes a great horse the facts show that ITMQ is a GREAT horse (in 99% ? of people's opinions)

I have to admit to entering this thread to balance out some of the negativity towards a smashing win last night - and if you look at this thread there is a fair dose of it. And yet as Richard points out that might be a World Rec for that size track.

I am a big, big Smoken fan (see sig) but that does not stop me from admiring Quinny. To be exciting our sport needs front running bulldogs and dazzling swoopers

There are others but one list that includes only great horses is
http://www.interdomhof.com.au/champion-horses.asp

I have suggested to HRA that we need a Hall of Fame for more than just multi Inter winners mind you

Cheers

[brent_L]

When Cockburn decide to go around ITMQ to sit outside he signed all their own Death Warrants. Did he honestly think he could win with Quinny parked right behind him?

What's your opinion of him even getting the chair in the first place Rod? Don't think the likes of Lewis, Woodley, Brown would have been so accommodating!

[Mighty Atom]

I'm Themightyquin = Super Star. Could you imagine what the time would have been if the race had been at Menangle? Noticed that L. Panella applied the whip 13 times to MB up the straight, Junior just once to ITMQ. Also noticed that G Hall junior did not even give Ms Panella as much as a glance after the winning post. Intentional or not?

[Smoken]

Ye he must have been in a Kamikaze kinda mood.. I'll be calling him Cocky Cockburn from now on!

[Messenger]

I'm Themightyquin: Super Star www.probertencyclopaedia.com200 × 171

The link is not working Rod

[Smoken]

That's fine Kev, we all have opinions and I'm fine with that. Facts are, everything I said is not based on some personal dislike to Quinny or GHJ, just common sense and facts from the past regarding Quinny. As Brent said, none of the Perth based drivers would have been as accommodating as Cockburn. And what was the point of SSL being in the race last night? Weird race...

[Messenger]

On the SSL point Ev, do you think Cockburn had the race mapped as SSL coming around (and hanging back in the death to give Mach an extra length into the str) and did not fancy being 3 len from Mach

[Mighty Atom]

Don't really think that Avonnova could hoof it with Quinny in a sprint as he's not this type of horse and not many horses can, Suspect that Cockburn knew this as well and really his best option was to get in front of Quinny and hope that Mach Beauty who was running along in quick sectionals had taken the sprint out of the great horse, But not to be. Full marks to young Lauren on Mach Beauty for running them along but was beaten but not disgraced by a better horse on the night. The time was quite staggering on a 1000 metre track.

Hi Rich,
Agree with you that Avonnova could not hoof it with Quinny. In pre-race interview G Hall senior stated that Avonnova had been racing very well, but he didn't think the horse had the sprint to take on Quinny. Very astute trainer.

[brent_L]

Kev, just come out and say it....Cockburn drove a good race????????????

[Mighty Atom]

Don't mean to beat a dead horse but I do get where Smoken is coming from Kev. Quinny is an out and out champion, nobody is denying that (at least I don't think they r), it's the circumstances of his victory that's in question. I consider myself a better than decent judge on how a race should/will pan out and I can tell u no one, bloody no one on earth would have drawn up the script the way it unfolded last night (I know Bob said Jnr would go forward but I'm sure he expected Quinny to slot in 1 or 2 back....would like to know his thought if you're out there Bob). If that was the speed map he would of started $1.40! That said IMO like Smokens, the leader was clearly the best run in the race and should have won.
It's like u said though Kev, it's great this little race created this much attention, both before & after.
Cheers

Hi Brent, As Adam Hamilton said that you not only saw a champion horse tonight but a champion driver as well. Gary Hall Jr created that position for himself and put him anywhere in the field and he drives a great race.