cobalt

[Messenger]

Interesting stuff Toni
With the chances of a false positive being 2.5 Million to 1 at the level of 120 ug/L
I think 120 would be a high enough level

[aussiebreno]

http://www.harnesslink.com/Internati...E-COURT-ACTION

http://www.caselaw.nsw.gov.au/action...?jgmtid=174661

This is from the Harnesslink web site.

I haven't read the entire Supreme Court finding and some will most likely go over my head but I don't understand how anyone would have thought challenging HRNSW's right to implement local rules would fly.

Some of the research presented surrounding cobalt is great reading. Might just go and check that list of readings HRNSW published!

[Messenger]

Some of the research presented surrounding cobalt is great reading. Might just go and check that list of readings HRNSW published!

Do you still have a link to that Brenno?
What category did Beautide fit into?

[aussiebreno]

Do you still have a link to that Brenno?
What category did Beautide fit into?

http://www.harnessmediacentre.com.au...2027082014.pdf

[Messenger]

Thanks Brendan
Beautide had a 43 reading
A reading of 50 is said to only have 1 chance in 118 of being a false positive

[Greg Hando]

Hi Brian.
In my opinion I believe the threshold is WAY TO HIGH as I think it only encourages people to use it and I think it should be given the same scrutiny as steroids in that the level should never be exceeded in the horses life. Horses should able to be tested 24/7 for anything.
One question I have is , " are horses tested upon their arrival into the retention barn ?" & if not they bloody well should be.
maybe you can answer that Adam..................thanks.

Trish all horses from foals up can be tested at any time by the powers that be if needed or required its under the rules about out of competition testing.

[trish]

Thanks Greg, didn't realise that from foals. Would it be against the rules to have a cobalt level over 200 in out of race testing, I don't know if it is, trainers used to be able to use steroids as long as it didn't show up on race day.
I Noticed we didn't get an answer out of Adam regarding the swabbing upon arrival to the retention barn, maybe he can fill us in when he gets a chance.

[Messenger]

Thanks Greg, didn't realise that from foals. Would it be against the rules to have a cobalt level over 200 in out of race testing, I don't know if it is, trainers used to be able to use steroids as long as it didn't show up on race day.
I Noticed we didn't get an answer out of Adam regarding the swabbing upon arrival to the retention barn, maybe he can fill us in when he gets a chance.

Somewhat related, I wondered if it was an offence to even have cobalt on your premises.
The reason I ask is that some horses tested well above the normal <5 reading and although less than 200, you would think they were receiving more than cobalt enriched feed.

[trish]

http://www.harness.org.au/news-artic...?news_id=24699

[trish]

Somewhat related, I wondered if it was an offence to even have cobalt on your premises.
The reason I ask is that some horses tested well above the normal <5 reading and although less than 200, you would think they were receiving more than cobalt enriched feed.

http://www.harness.org.au/news-artic...?news_id=24690
Hi Kevin, In this article it has a bit at the end about cobalt on your premises.