Odds On Favourites under the VIC tiered system 2016-17

[Messenger]

Something still feels very wrong about days like today with an 11 race program at Headquarters Melton where each race is for only $3500
It certainly seems like we are putting on a show on the cheap by paying the performers less
As far as tiered racing goes it certainly is not working
If favourite odds is an indicator it certainly did not seem to be evening out the fields with more than half the races having a fav < $1.60
$1.10 $1.10 $1.20 $1.40 $1.40 $1.50

http://www.harness.org.au/meeting-re...X290517&ms=vic

[Fan of Jate]

That is getting close to Globe Derby money. And in the biggest or 2nd biggest racing market in the country. Those "performers" are racing more frequently as well. The bills have to be paid.


There was a meeting at Cranbourne on Sunday where there were 6 favourites (9 races) under even money and four won

[Messenger]

Champion 3yo filly Petacular, winner of $300k already, naturally won her C1-2 race at Maryborough today.
She started $1.04 having finished 2nd in the Vic Oaks at her previous start

[Amlin]

And where have all the $10,000 races in the country gone?

Something still feels very wrong about days like today with an 11 race program at Headquarters Melton where each race is for only $3500
It certainly seems like we are putting on a show on the cheap by paying the performers less
As far as tiered racing goes it certainly is not working
If favourite odds is an indicator it certainly did not seem to be evening out the fields with more than half the races having a fav < $1.60
$1.10 $1.10 $1.20 $1.40 $1.40 $1.50

http://www.harness.org.au/meeting-re...X290517&ms=vic

[gutwagon]

Lets be honest, the whole idea of the tiered prize money was just a sneaky way for HRV to reduce stakes by around 1/3. As far as they are concerned it is a huge success. For owners, trainers and punters it has been a disaster. It has resulted in some of the most uneven fields I have ever seen. Horses are blowing a C front in a $5000 race. Horses with 100k earnings are racing against 2k earners. Battlers just cant cover their costs. Trainers have not and many could not cut their fees.
Weren't they going to review this system after a certain time ? I bet they just tweak it a bit, no chance of going back to the old better system !

[Messenger]

I have not been keeping stats but I would be pretty confident that we have had far fewer longs odds on favs in the last couple of months
Not so at Charlton today however as 6/9 favs were:
$1.04 $1.60 $1.20 $1.40 $1.10 $1.70

The $1.40 and $1.10 WERE BEATEN
The $1.10 led and didn't cop any pressure the first half of the race but was blitzed by a $48 pop who came from last
The $1.10 clearly did not deserve to be that short but somehow it happens at the trots - Crazy
How the $1.40 pop got beaten in the trot is worth watching

http://www.harness.org.au/meeting-re...H240717&ms=vic

[Messenger]

Not that tonight's Metro meet was too bad for Odds On pops (and we had some excellent markets) but they kicked in in the second half of the program and it made me wonder whether Emma Stewart is the main source of our Longs Odds On pops - it would be worth researching

http://www.harness.org.au/racing/fie...X280917&ms=vic

[Messenger]

Are the long odds on pops back?

Tonight at Terang 6 favourites $1.70 or less

Last night at Melton 7 favourites $1.80 or less

Ballarat on Friday 6 favourites $1.80 or less

Yarra Valley on Friday 5 favourites $1.80 or less

Bendigo on Thursday 5 Odds On favourites (longest fav of night was $2.30)

[Messenger]

Melton tonight 5 favourites $1.70 or less

Only 2 successful - some people must be losing serious money when $1.40 pops are being beaten

[Fan of Jate]

yes, they would be probably dropping a couple of grand a bet. Fixed odds can drop from $1.70 to $1.60 if a couple of $1000 bets are placed and punters usually chase the money so maybe a lot of smaller bets put on as well.