Like Our Overanova was heaving a heat where winning was not everything tonight. Stablemate won though! Why go back to last like that on the odds on pop?Originally Posted by Messenger
Well summarized Dot. It does not take much for a favourite to start too short in Vic - risk analysis should be everything but sometimes it seems to be non existent. Sure it was an actual race but maybe it should have been treated as a warm up - somewhat 'heat' like, where winning is not everything.
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Like Our Overanova was heaving a heat where winning was not everything tonight. Stablemate won though! Why go back to last like that on the odds on pop?
In the minds of punters Kev, yes, and perhaps this is where JB erred, there's no way of knowing from what he's written if he's taken the fillies future program into account, and at risk of perhaps stepping slightly over the social media policy, he should have and made it clear in his assesment that he'd considered the filly may have had bigger fish to fry. The experienced punters probably considered this for themselves but perhaps the novices could have done with a little more guidance. Right at the start of the replay you can hear the caller make reference to the super sires but too late then for punters of course.
Connections aren't given the luxury of treating a race as a "warm up" they have to be seen to be trying but I guess there will always be trying and trying. The filly was eligible for this race and you can't blame connections for trying to earn a little on the way to the sires but perhaps HRVs programming was a little off here and this should have been a 4yo and older C0 which would no doubt have seen her trial the night before. But as "Bonnie" has pointed out the better 3yos need somewhere to race too. Getting the programming right is obviously not easy but perhaps this needs a little tweak for next year with the COs immediately before the sires heats being 4yo plus and an higher assessed 3yo programmed if there wasn't.
Not surprised to see an Inquiry (Adjourned) into Lance Justice's drive in the last at Stawell
http://www.harness.org.au/racing/fie...ic#SWC27061802
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R2 Melton, I hope Ryan Duffy will be asked what he was doing using the whip a lap out if it wasn't team driving
Nathan Jack gave his stablemate a nice cart up too but he can always say that he was going to get the 1x1 by doing so
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On the back of tonights loss Sydney Rooser have sacked Cooper Cronk and are ready to bring in Neil Day. Give Wagga race 1 a watch.
He will whip them into shape
ps That Trots TV replay was a jumble
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I found this article from the Sunday Star Times (NZ) on Stuff.co.nz today.
I believe too many people who do not actively train horses for a living show a propensity for throwing rotten tomatoes whenever a "positive" is detected or a suspension is handed down. As somebody who derives a living from delivering "justice" where needed, i find the failure of NZ officials to follow through leads coming out of the Dunn case disturbing. Make sure you read this article:
https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/racing...to-frame-owner
Last edited by Showgrounds; 06-30-2018 at 06:10 PM. Reason: Add link
Thanks Trevor - the U in RIU (Racing Integrity Unit) might stand for Useless instead of Unit
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"Lance Justice (Beach Skipper NZ) was questioned regarding his tactics through the early and middle stages when after issuing a short challenge to the leader Hot Breakfast in the home straight on the first occasion, he again challenged Hot Breakfast from approximately the 1400m to the 1000m as Lets Save The Day NZ raced three wide around him. After again being unsuccessful he was then forced to race outside of the leader for the remainder of the race before being beaten 28.5m into 6th place. After taking evidence from driver Lance Justice and also taking evidence from driver James Herbertson,( Hot Breakfast), which had led before surrendering the lead at approximately the 900m and driver Jason Lee, (Lets Save The Day NZ), which raced three wide through the middle stages before crossing to take the lead at the 900m, stewards adjourned the inquiry to a time and date to be fixed, to allow them to further investigate certain aspect of the race."
http://www.harness.org.au/racing/ste...&fromstate=vic
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