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Thanks Trevor - the U in RIU (Racing Integrity Unit) might stand for Useless instead of Unit

Or UNBELIEVABLE!

[Messenger]

I cant wait to read the answer to the QIP Audaz Bonita's connections gave for its win in R1 at Melton today

This was a $7k race at Melton albeit a weak one but Audaz had not won for 60 starts
She was first up from a spell but this years efforts at Terang, Mt Gambier etc was 8-6-7-6-6 with an average losing margin of over 40m

She started $3 - she had only started that short once in her 72 starts and that was at Mt Gambier 2 years ago when she finished 5th
They were leaving nothing to chance with this sting (?) as Gavin Lang was driving her for the very first time
Putting Gavin on may have ruined any plunge - if that was the plan - as she opened $2.80 fixed, I think

http://www.harness.org.au/racing/fie...18#MXC02071803

[arlington]

I cant wait to read the answer to the QIP Audaz Bonita's connections gave for its win in R1 at Melton today

This was a $7k race at Melton albeit a weak one but Audaz had not won for 60 starts
She was first up from a spell but this years efforts at Terang, Mt Gambier etc was 8-6-7-6-6 with an average losing margin of over 40m

She started $3 - she had only started that short once in her 72 starts and that was at Mt Gambier 2 years ago when she finished 5th
They were leaving nothing to chance with this sting (?) as Gavin Lang was driving her for the very first time
Putting Gavin on may have ruined any plunge - if that was the plan - as she opened $2.80 fixed, I think

http://www.harness.org.au/racing/fie...18#MXC02071803

Do you think Melton should post exposed current trial form in http://www.harnessracingforum.com/sh...s-Need-to-Know each week Kev? Brenno would love it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lyhlL4OpuWQ
http://www.harness.org.au/racing/tri...?trialId=18281

But it might do Craig Rail out of a job -
AUDAZ BONITA (1) has the strike rate of only one win from 72 starts but she has performed nicely at the trials leading up to her first up appearance. She won a trial at Maryborough then followed with a third behind the open class trotter Illawong Armstrong (2.00.5, 28.9) so a bold showing is expected.

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Other states do include trial form in a horse form in their HRA profiles but Victoria doesn't. I believe HRVs racing manager is looking into including trial form in Vic in the profiles.

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Do you think Melton should post exposed current trial form in http://www.harnessracingforum.com/sh...s-Need-to-Know each week Kev? Brenno would love it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lyhlL4OpuWQ
http://www.harness.org.au/racing/tri...?trialId=18281

But it might do Craig Rail out of a job -
AUDAZ BONITA (1) has the strike rate of only one win from 72 starts but she has performed nicely at the trials leading up to her first up appearance. She won a trial at Maryborough then followed with a third behind the open class trotter Illawong Armstrong (2.00.5, 28.9) so a bold showing is expected.

Thanks for that Wayne. I only caught up with the results so I did not see Craig Rail's Form Analysis - how did you get that retrospectively?!

I wont answer about the inclusion of trials as I am afraid of Brenno

[arlington]

Thanks for that Wayne. I only caught up with the results so I did not see Craig Rail's Form Analysis - how did you get that retrospectively?!

I wont answer about the inclusion of trials as I am afraid of Brenno

Kev, Not that in retrospect will help Brenno out but the race field/s analysis is the same as GOODFORM's (pretty sure that holds true) and that will still be up the next race day until that day's meeting is put up but the race field analysis will stay up well after the meeting has finished as well. Pumpkin hour when it becomes results, analysis etc removed.

I have seen, more so NSW, trial form via race field profiles and it's probably a good thing. But just a little but, sure, I'd think any serious/pro punter/s that could have made that horse odds on would have known about it's trial form but if not spoon feeding means you get a good price, well it wouldn't add to the odds on thread here. Brenno may have been as suggestive before.

[arlington]

I found this article from the Sunday Star Times (NZ) on Stuff.co.nz today.

I believe too many people who do not actively train horses for a living show a propensity for throwing rotten tomatoes whenever a "positive" is detected or a suspension is handed down. As somebody who derives a living from delivering "justice" where needed, i find the failure of NZ officials to follow through leads coming out of the Dunn case disturbing. Make sure you read this article:

https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/racing...to-frame-owner

Not sure about your intent with quoting teecee and your first sentence Trevor. I might be very slow on the uptake. Are you saying it's only hobbyists that have that propensity and professionals never do?

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I must say that I had missed the stable change from J Barker to K Barker for Audaz Bonita and there clearly was trial form for the astute to go on

http://www.harness.org.au/racing/ste...&fromstate=vic

[Showgrounds]

Not sure about your intent with quoting teecee and your first sentence Trevor. I might be very slow on the uptake. Are you saying it's only hobbyists that have that propensity and professionals never do?

I have absolutely no idea what you are talking about. TC posted the original story quite a while back, just quoted him to give some background context to the story published the other day.

I'm not suggesting anything, other than the "integrity" unit seemed to be happy in getting somebody, not necessarily the culprit. If you want to believe the story, that is.

[arlington]

I have absolutely no idea what you are talking about. TC posted the original story quite a while back, just quoted him to give some background context to the story published the other day.

I'm not suggesting anything, other than the "integrity" unit seemed to be happy in getting somebody, not necessarily the culprit. If you want to believe the story, that is.

My mistake. I'll correct my post -

Not sure about your intent with quoting teecee and your second sentence Trevor. I might be very slow on the uptake. Are you saying it's only hobbyists that have that propensity and professionals never do?

Does that help? My intent was to ask if you were saying hobbyists have a propensity to throw rotten tomatoes due to a positive swab or suspension but professionals never do.

So, I'm asking now if your second sentence in post #378 which said I believe too many people who do not actively train horses for a living show a propensity for throwing rotten tomatoes whenever a "positive" is detected or a suspension is handed down is merely a coincidence when you've quoted someone spelling out the difference between a professional and hobbyist? (Hobbyists being those people who do not actively train horses for a living.)