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    HRV Roadshows begin on March 16 - Don't give us the same old crap

    I have posted about these elsewhere but want to say that I believe HRV are ethically obliged to tell/show all the young participants that they are encouraging and promoting What Their Future Will Look Like

    They have to be telling them more than 'how well the cuts are going'
    Our participants have been so accepting of Administration Failure for decades
    I think the latest acceptance would seem to be that Vics are now conditioned to $4k racing

    I hope the Roadshow can convince me that they have some vision - that they have been going into work every day and thinking about "How are we going to get out of this shit?"

    Huge ideas need to be thrown around. Considering the Thoroughbreds to be the Big Pond, in Vic we are no longer a puddle - we are a drop
    Should we be a country Vic sport, country people seem to be more aware of our existence (as much as the gallops) - many of our participants live in country communities
    How do we make our product more exciting?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    It is the chicken and the egg - there is no coverage because there is no interest / there is no interest because there is no coverage
    We need to appeal to Europe again.
    We need Duncan or Pat to breed a world champion so that the media will come crawling back

    Don't get me wrong - I know how hard it is now that the whole world of sport is our competition
    But DO NOT GIVE us another round of budgetary explanations

    https://www.thetrots.com.au/news/art...wer-questions/

    For those who can’t attend in person, the Melton roadshow on Monday, March 17, will be streamed live on www.trotsvision.com.au.
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    When the Charlton Cup meeting on Sunday includes four $4k races - I think you can safely say that the industry has been successfully conditioned to accept $4k races
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    Quote Originally Posted by Messenger View Post
    When the Charlton Cup meeting on Sunday includes four $4k races - I think you can safely say that the industry has been successfully conditioned to accept $4k races
    And that is not good if they have. We were racing for that years & years ago. They have to do something . How can people in the industry make a living?????? 2nd & 3rd jobs maybe.

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    I hope I will not be the only one tuning into TrotsVision for the Roadshow at 7pm tonight - if Live Captions does not work, I may not be much of a scribe for everyone.

    Did anyone attend the first Roadshow at Mildura yesterday?
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    Approx 70 attendees I was told this morning

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    Approx 60 attendees there tonight - sadly you do not need one hand to count the under 50yo's
    Then again young people would wonder why you would attend something you can watch on your phone - so I hope some of them were because it is THEIR future that we are discussing

    It was mostly about Budgeting. I will write it all up tomorrow

    There was definitely a vibe that we could leave Melton for MV (if we still get some equity from it from the gov)
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    There was definitely a vibe that we could leave Melton for MV .

    MV was great racing . Loved it there .

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    What the hec, I will write it up now in point form

    HRV revenue has been static for 10yrs !

    Even after cuts and gov't help HRV will make a LOSS of $12m this year

    Statutory Bodies like HRV have been told that they now have to live within their means (no more Gov subsidy)

    We are lucky that the Joint Venture partners - Gallops and Doggies are letting us take $90m more than we are entitled to (over the next 9yrs)

    Stated that rationalizing the racing calendar was the only lever they had to improve revenue (How about some ideas men!?)

    My first snip of one of their overheads didn't copy well but stated some small savings and improvements such as staff costs now back to 2017 levels
    This is the next one which is more interesting (before I continue)
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    CEO Matthew Isaacs had done most of the speaking before Chairman Bernard Saundry took questions

    He started by saying that the 26(?) clubs model is broken. We need to grow the number of people racing horses, we need to grow turnover, Participants need to support the sport on Social Media

    The balance has to be found between supporting communities and improving turnover

    He said there would be 52 less race meetings next year due to declining horse population and that at least 80% of meetings will be at the tracks that produce higher returns
    (Later on it was revealed that Wednesday meetings would be disappearing in favour of Monday meetings)

    Another Overhead
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    Matthew and Bernard both answered questions plus another staff who addressed a couple of questions about Integrity

    He said HRV had been disappointed about some VRT rulings on things such as stays but on the question of sporadic checks (raids) he said they now have a good system of knowing where to target these. He also stated that participants need to pass on their knowledge of wrongful goings on if we are serious about improving image.

    Ginger Gleeson asked about the touted training facility for Melton but was told that Melton was now too valuable for such a facility

    Another attendee who identified himself as a participant from only the last couple of years suggested that staying in Melton based on it being a growth corridor was not necessarily true. He asked how the gallops gets over 5,000 young people at MV, I may have misheard this as sometimes 2 mikes in operation for questions produced poor audio, but I definitely didn't mishear his relevant point that everybody not in this room (that is the young!) does everything on their phone.

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