July 2025 Queensland Carnival : Interdom, Prostar, ...

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[trish]

Certainly little comfort - I believe the ridiculous non selection cost Captains Mistress $145k

100% agree .

And via the stupid lane , a horse beats the one who should have won the RS. Just my opinion .

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Personally, I think Racing Qld have done a great job with their decisions.

The bonus points is a great initiative for a few reasons. I think it's unrealistic to think it would be manipulated as you say Kevin. On the flip side, it gives horses that are unlucky with the barrier draws a chance to earn some extra points. It also gives a horse that makes a mistake (or suffers interference) a chance to earn 1 or 2 bonus points. After all, we all want the best horses to have a chance to make the final don't we? ... not just the luckiest horses.

The decision to allow a 4yr old winner a chance at the Interdom final is also a great initiative. They were also required to race again this week, so that takes away the argument that they don't have to race in 2 heats like the others. Imagine it was a generational 4yr old, say a Leap To Fame type, it would be amazing to see him step up and race the older horses. It would create intrigue and interest in the race, which is what we want our administrators doing. And don't forget that its inclusion was going to be IN ADDITION to the horses that earned their way into the final on points, so the 4yr old wasn't taking anyone's place, they were increasing the field size.

The controversy over the field selection in the RS is fair enough, everyone has their own opinion on these things. There is no right or wrong. Also, there is often someone worthy that has to miss out. I haven't seen any great arguments on which horse specifically should have missed out. If we are talking about Rubira, then the market suggests he deserved his spot in the race, he started 2nd favourite after all. This would suggest that he earned his place. Remember he just beat Path To Greatness and (the eventual winner) Fate Awaits in a strong Redcliffe Derby. Even the outsider of the RS field, Charge Ahead, was recently placed 2nd in the Chariots Of Fire, our premier 4yr old race in Australia. Hard to leave him out. I have no problem with the decision to leave out the horse that only has 3yr old filly form. If she is good enough, then she can have a crack next year as a 4 yr old.

Just my opinion on things.

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Interesting Patrick. I think there are better ways to even things out. Old and traditional, I know but having 3 heats and with evened out barrier draws, I don't know the name for it but it has been done before, where every runners 3 draws adds up to roughly 20.
I don't care much about the 4yo concept
As for the controversy over field selection, I do not agree that "there is no right or wrong". Most of the time there is but again that is only IMO (LOL)

I agree Trish that The Janitor was very unlucky as the head on suggests that Grant drifted out meaning that Trista did not need to cut into the sprint lane but simply continue straight on

[trish]

Interesting Patrick. I think there are better ways to even things out. Old and traditional, I know but having 3 heats and with evened out barrier draws, I don't know the name for it but it has been done before, where every runners 3 draws adds up to roughly 20.
I don't care much about the 4yo concept
As for the controversy over field selection, I do not agree that "there is no right or wrong". Most of the time there is but again that is only IMO (LOL)

I agree Trish that The Janitor was very unlucky as the head on suggests that Grant drifted out meaning that Trista did not need to cut into the sprint lane but simply continue straight on

Old and traditional is the only fair way IMO .

[trish]

https://www.harness.org.au/media-roo...?news_id=70385


DH is very good but I personally , do not think he is in LTF's class .
But in saying that Luke is a very smart driver .

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https://www.harness.org.au/racing/fi...s/?mc=AP120725

When you only have 2 rounds of heats it does not strike me as very fair that using the placegetters from the first round, in the next round:
One heat has 5 of the placegetters and the other two heats only have 2 placegetters

In the trot heats it is even worse. In the second round one heat has both the winners and runners up while the other heat only has the third placegetters (but also both 4ths and 5ths)
I am thinking that anything other than those top four in that heat may have their work cut out for them although Zealous Spur could still be a chance to make the final but London To A Brick certainly has a mountain to climb

[trish]

Maybe LTAB will win & get those idiotic bonus points!