Penrith's off...again.

[mango]

Has there been any move to upgrade the country track in NSW maybe standardize them to 1000m where possible even through in another 1400m I know where smithy is coming from those numbers look good in the sales catalogues. I don't think you can just race at Menangle the reality is once the prize money goes' up most of the horses racing there now will be forced out to the country tracks to make a living and IMO a few of the horses and driver have been caught out try to race Menangle trip on the smaller tracks

Defiantly with you there Mango I would have guessed around 75% its a wonder how so many good horses come out of the sales

Bathurst, Wagga and Tamworth look like getting 1000m tracks, Newcastle and Goulburn are already 1000m.

[aussiebreno]

Without invading on what should/shouldn't happen to Penrith/Fairfield/Bankstown/Eastern Creek one part of the argument being used is wrong imo. Two users have mentioned that lesser class horses will have less oppurtunites when prizemoney increases/tracks close. My solution and what should be the solution of HRNSW is that Menangle will race more often if that need arises. As somebody said about the Eastern Creek club; racing 4 or 5 days a week has more benefits than just the increased racing.
And VVV I see you mentioned economies of scale. Microeconomics first intoduced me to that term in uni just a few months ago...my exams are over and never again did I want to hear anything about it!

[nat]

You need a good speard of track so you dont have to come to town to make some money 2 or 3 in an area within a 100-200km to make a curcuit you need about 10 - 13 good track dosent matter what size (800m and 1000m would be better) as long its a good track with turns, camber surface and drainage for consistant even racing. Down here in Vic you can say what you want but all the track are good from Mildura to Melton theres not one track I wouldnt race on

[aussiebreno]

Yes but money doesn't grow on trees, NSW has as many tracks as Vic but over the last 10 years while Victoria seemed to be doing a different track upgrade every 6 months a lot of NSW tracks were having trouble stopping the weeds growing on them!

[nat]

To true Aussie just wondering what there major plane is you cannot beat improving your infrastructure whether it you farm of business Its a shame it was let go that way when I was young many moons ago NSW was the cream of racing.

[mango]

Hi Breno

Not all horses are suited to big tracks so if Penrith,Bankstown and Fairfield were to set up at Eastern Creek where would the closest 800m track be for horses from Sydney. As one of the people who mention the lower class horses i look at it this way and how it was explained to me some horses can go 2.02 at Penrith but then go to Menangle and are lucky to run 1:59 where as the winner goes 56 and change so in looking at this that horse will have more of a chance winning at Penrith and hardly a chance winning at Menangle.

[aussiebreno]

Hi Breno

Not all horses are suited to big tracks so if Penrith,Bankstown and Fairfield were to set up at Eastern Creek where would the closest 800m track be for horses from Sydney. As one of the people who mention the lower class horses i look at it this way and how it was explained to me some horses can go 2.02 at Penrith but then go to Menangle and are lucky to run 1:59 where as the winner goes 56 and change so in looking at this that horse will have more of a chance winning at Penrith and hardly a chance winning at Menangle.

If Eastern Creek is 1000m it negates knee knockers and the saucer track effect; to me that is of greater benefit for more horses than the benefit of 800m tracks are for some horses.
Does a horse that goes 1.59 around Menangle really deserve to be winning races anyway? Yeah in the past they may have found the front and ran 64 and 58 around Penrith but that has long been of angst to harness fans.
Plus if these tracks did shut down that would mean there is more racing at Eastern Creek and Menangle; meaning that not every race will go in the 1.56/57 vicinity. There will still be weaker races. And if they still can't compete...Globe Derby it is!

[mango]

Hey Breno

Your also correct in what your saying and we could keep bouncing this back for another month of sunday's in posts so i'll leave it at this, my opinion is that there is still a place for a 800m track in Sydney and i believe that is Penrith.

[Greg Hando]

If Eastern Creek is 1000m it negates knee knockers and the saucer track effect; to me that is of greater benefit for more horses than the benefit of 800m tracks are for some horses.
Does a horse that goes 1.59 around Menangle really deserve to be winning races anyway? Yeah in the past they may have found the front and ran 64 and 58 around Penrith but that has long been of angst to harness fans.
Plus if these tracks did shut down that would mean there is more racing at Eastern Creek and Menangle; meaning that not every race will go in the 1.56/57 vicinity. There will still be weaker races. And if they still can't compete...Globe Derby it is!

Any race a horse wins deserves it regardless of the time run on any track everyone is eligible to compete

[aussiebreno]

Hey Breno

Your also correct in what your saying and we could keep bouncing this back for another month of sunday's in posts so i'll leave it at this, my opinion is that there is still a place for a 800m track in Sydney and i believe that is Penrith.

Yeah exactly, if they can three, even four tracks and still be financially viable then that would be excellent.