Well said John. Excellent post.Originally Posted by Midfrew
I thought maybe the main focus of the Report would have been on this area mainly because it is free to implement as well as being pretty much immediate.
More racing opportunities will have a positive impact on potential down the line to breed with. 6.6% of races programmed for F&M sais it all.
I notice that one person on the panel is associated with Alabar and another with APG.
The big winners of this plan will be stallion owners with the increase in prices and numbers of services, and the companies that run the yearling sales with people turning away from nz stock and going to the sales.
Strange that !!
Maybe the breeding bonus could be spent on service fees or at yearling sales on horses. This might keep more people happy ?
Don't die wondering !
There isn't going to be an increase in services though. The positives are very minimal, if any, in helping fill fields.
Although there may be an increase in prices yes; because the higher end mares who generally bred to the higher end stallions will get more credits. The report also found no correlation between service fees and prices at sales so, against my opinion, I guess the sales prices won't actually won't increase though that. But they may increase a little bit due to less imports. But remember they are two different markets.
Triplev
[vvv] she was better than good. She was a superstar.
unfortunately she tore her cervix when foaling her 1st one and was ET only from that day onwards. Sushi is an example of the quality of racehorse that she was destined to leave time & again but through circumstances/bad luck was largely unable to do so. Her owner does deserve a medal, though he will not get one for his golfing prowess & especially so for his composure whilst putting.
Are you saying that because of Embryo transfer this is why her earlier foals (except the 1st ) weren't as good as people expected them to be? Trying hard to understand your comment to me it is suggesting ET changes the genes as all mare's have bad luck stories about some of their progeny from time to time.
Have whoever you want on but don't ever have yourself on
Gutwagon
Sabalize was a top mare and will be bred from all her life i would think if you look up her performance and family you will see why the breeding side is persisted with, a very strong family.
Have whoever you want on but don't ever have yourself on
You really dont get it. This is not about giving breeders a free kick. This report is about increasing foal numbers.Thanks Lance. Wont bother responding to Roosters or that bloke (justdoit I think his name was). Makes you shake your head with some of the stuff people come up with
Right for he record:
I buy going horses from NZ
I buy going horses from Australia
I buy yearlings
I breed and have expanded my broodmare band (including 2 whom are racing but I will breed with) 4 fold in the last 12 months
I wasn't born into harness racing and got hooked
I love the horses
I want to see the industry prosper as much as anyone else
My beef is quite clear with the import fee:
It is inequitable
It provides a barrier to entry for ownership
It dilutes the ability to generate returns
It taxes one part of the industry to fund another
...and the list goes on.
If I did not love nor care for the industry I would say it would be pretty unlikely that I would spend the time I have on here looking at the pros and cons of what has been proposed.
Remember - I breed and I will be explanding my breeding operation BUT I know what I am getting myself into. I accept that if my breeding will not be successful then that is my fault, not anyone elses. I do not expect hand outs and while it would be lovely to reduce costs, as generally I will breed to race then if it goes pear-shaped, that is my fault, no one elses. I do not expect other owners to subsidise my ownership punt - because thats exactly what 79% of breeders whom breed to race are - OWNERS!
Seem as though you are mr Knowitall, can you explain how you would address the problem of rapidly diminishing foal numbers?
Her first foal was a very promising horse but he had a breathing problem that was operated on as a 2YO. The operation was a disaster and ended his career.
Trainers always tell me they dont like ET's? Is there evidence to support that, or is it just a myth?
I liked the old NSW Statebred bonus' bloody lot of horse's bought and bred on them bring them back i say.
And Gutwagon another is with Egmont Park in QLD .
When people go on these panel's or board's they have to remember to take off their own cap and put the REPRESENT THE WHOLE INDUSTRY cap on and as with most panel's or controlling bodies in SPORT'S most Rep's are there for their own benefit and what they can get for themselve's and don't bother about anyone else Union's are another example of (wear 2 cap's) that i've been involved with.
I'm not saying the panel is there for their own benefit but sometime's people do wonder what their intention's are the betterment of the whole or the betterment of me.
Have whoever you want on but don't ever have yourself on
Just a myth Genes don't change
Have whoever you want on but don't ever have yourself on
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