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    That is a big project Katie, I will begin with Betting Line tonight who is a huge project in himself. We all know about Bettors Delight so like you I am interested in his maternal line

    I have not paid for any info from the USTA so although long this post is not comprehensive.
    Not being a big follower of US harness racing there are probably big names other than those I have listed which more ardent followers would know (and possibly add for us)

    Of course you will find his pedigree everywhere but I have attached a pdf screenshot at the bottom of the post which will give you 5gens using Pedigree Partner just for those who like Colour Crosses (I hope it is clear enough)

    Here is a link to his pretty impressive credentials/race history which includes the Little Brown Jug and fastest 3yo of his year

    http://classicfamilies.net/CF/Histor...ntClass&AD=ASC

    Here is the USTA link for his dam and 2nd dam (which has his basic stats up the top too)

    http://stars.ustrotting.com/dam.cfm?stallion_id=812

    Both producers and racemares themselves with 1st dam Heather's Western having won a Gp3 as a 2yo and 3yo (see link below) Betting Line is the standout of their progeny (only Millionaire)

    http://classicfamilies.net/CF/Histor...rseID=10057991

    I then used the fantastic classicfamilies again to open all the little boxes (100's ?) which lists all the notable descendants of his 6th dam Laura Hanover which is probably going back a bit far considering this is the prolific U1 Family but I thought it interesting that her 3 serious producing progeny are all full sisters by Nibble Hanover thus making the sisters of his 5th dam Miss Laura more interesting in my eyes (and the reason why I went back to his 6th dam)

    You can too by using the following link, or just keep reading

    http://classicfamilies.net/CF/Descen...rseID=10010734

    The strongest arm of the family is the Beryl Hanover arm (full sis to BL's 5th dam) where we find standouts:
    $3.5m winning mare Anndrovette
    $2.3m winner and sire Dragon Again
    Super sire Bret Hanover

    Next strongest arm is the Odella Hanover arm (full sis to BL's 5th dam)
    sire Western Terror
    and his near on 2M winning full bro If I Can Dream
    NZ sire Sir Dalrae
    plus a few other millionaires

    Betting Line's 5th dam Miss Bullet is the other strong line of the family and although he is the real standout, without going to the lengths I have, if you open this link for his 3rd dam Marfa Newton and open the four + boxes you will see that this arm could prove very strong

    http://classicfamilies.net/CF/Descen...rseID=10038113

    I might have preferred him to belong to the Beryl Hanover arm but nobody would be surprised to see him cut it as a stallion and everybody wants Bettors!

    One more classicfamilies link - just look at who the U1 family have produced

    http://classicfamilies.net/CF/Family...meGroup&AD=ASC

    and here is the pdf for Betting Line's ped in colour (I hope)
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    per un PUGNO di DOLLARI

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