A pretty good comparison Kev, especially as NZ harness racing is apparently in peril, I am not sure why because most of them are over here. Maybe it is the fact that M.Purdon and co are winning most of biggest NZ races but then again that stable wins a shedful over here as well. The "plight of a trainer" thread can quite easily be changed to "the plight of an owner" then we can really see who are the winners and losers.