Yes Kev an M1 in the Hunter Cup sheeesh, I know its almost impossible to compare great horse from the past but I saw Waitaki Hanover win the Hunter Cup at the Showgrounds from 24yd behind and ran something like 2.06 for the 14 furlongs (2800m) around a saucer from a Stand Start. I'd would love to see the gooduns of yesterday on the bigger tracks of today.