I started this thread as a result of comments made on the 'Muscle Massive (Prematurely) Retired'.

For those of you that do not know the history of Bill Robinson here are his stastitics as of today. As a trainer he has had 8173 starts for 2617 wins, 1283 seconds, 974 thirds for $53,180,772 in stakes with a UDRs of .447 and his last start was on the 12th of December 2010 Sunday just gone.

For anyone to say that he is not a great horseman / trainer then I would like them to show me a trainer with better stastitics than what I have shown above.

As I feel that this forum is a ligitimate one I hope that readers can keep to facts and a real discussion develop and not let this thread turn into a battleground.