Brenno the horses cant be transferred to Maries name or be trained by her in NSW dont know about other states.It is no-one else's business whose name is down as trainer. If the owner is happy that's all that count's.I don't know why you are so up in the air about it.
Have whoever you want on but don't ever have yourself on
Definately NOT TRUE!Originally Posted by barney
Im just giving an outsiders opinion, so someone more involved might have more to say. I think having someone else train horses so you can concentrate on driving is a smart business decision, not a shonky one, but I always like to give the benefit of the doubt.
I would think it relates to a lot of partnerships and not just the McCarthys and im sure there would be many where there are two involved but only one listed as a trainer. If you were training with your wife or brother or friend what would you do?
Its the same with Maree/John Caldow. If the driver is also the trainer, he cant drive outside horses in any race where he has a horse engaged. This way the driver can drive his best chance of success in a race
Well to me its a business choice they have made just like all the other duos mentioned. he can train in his name but chooses not to for whatever reasons and as far as I can tell thats legal, or im sure it would have been shut down by now.
As far as going to the sales - just because he isnt listed as a trainer doesnt mean he doesnt know how to pick a good horse - I really dont see how that has any bearing on who trains the horses. Im sure a lot of people wouldnt mind his opinion on the yearlings!!
Again, I ask what would you do if you were in this situation of being in a parntership where both can train and one can drive???
Yes, it was a business decision. If he hadn't transferred when he did (with the positive swab saga) there was every chance the horses would have been taken of him and Belinda. Up until then Luke had not transferred any horses. That is the one and only reason the horses are now in Belinda's name. Watch them be transferred back to Luke should Belinda ever get a positive swab. Business as usual alright.
Belinda trained that horse all along, it wasnt in Lukes name and then transferred to Belinda.
http://www.harnesslink.com/www/Article.cgi?ID=97792
"The harsh sentence handed down to Luke McCarthy is likely to affect many around him including owners and staff with officials denying Belinda McCarthy the opportunity to take over the reins at the Cobbity stable, although the Cobbity horseman has plans in place to ensure his owners and staff are as unaffected as possible. " Im consulting my lawyers as we speak and working towards a right of appeal, either way I will make sure the horses still race and my owners are looked after. I've spoken to most and they're all very supportive," said McCarthy."
Luke refers as 'my owners' not 'our' owners (you know how Emilio and Luke walked hand in hand according to above poster?). It is quite clear from that article why the horses were being transferred. To look after the owners in case the worst happened and Luke got time. Belinda took the reins due to all this. Not for any other reason.
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It's been a busy day at HRNSW head office today with a number of trainers applications.
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But I guess it is so their brother/wife can just concentrate on driving huh. Just like Kevin Pizzutto is now concentrating on washing the dishes and driving while K Crouch trains them. All about a business decision!
You are blurring the line. Luke is legally allowed to train in his own name. Once people are disqualified, they are not allowed to legally train in their own name and therefore it becomes more of a necessity to transfer them into someone elses name. (Just like all the other combinations mentioned above as well, I dont feel comfortable discussing solely the McCarthys because they are certainly not the only ones out there doing this)
I also dont think it would be business as usual. What, would a brother just take on the training of his brothers horses for no monetary gain, just out of the goodness of his heart?? I dont know, I havent been in that situation and I dont train, but if my brother or partner couldnt train and asked me to take the reins, I would certainly be getting paid for having my name there, thats for sure.
And while we are on topic, just who do you transfer them to? If owners want their horses to continue training the way they have, you would transfer them to someone who knows how to train like that. Isnt it up to the owners who they want them transferred?
Anyway, I always thought it was up the owners who trained their horses. So if an owner feels uncomfortable about transferring them to someone who is related to their previous trainer, they always have the option of transferring them elsewhere.
If belinda has trained that horse all along, then its not such a stretch to beleive she is now a trainer.
Either way - Luke was never disqualified so I dont really see what the problem is?
And I dont even know why it comes down all to him. I also spotted that A Siejka is training in her name when I always thought it was P Russo (correct me if im wrong), but why isnt that considered shady after he was stood down?
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