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[Dot]

Yes I guess he could possibly have done that, certainly not what I'm used to seeing from barrier 1 in WA though. But how do you guarantee Kev if Gav had gone back at the start to get into the running line he would have won anymore then if the run in the straight had opened up instead of jostling and locking wheels in the straight?

The only certainty in racing is that there is no certainty. Punters are wagering money on an event with an uncertain outcome in the hope of winning more money, not putting it in the bank for a 2 minute term deposit at 30%. Maybe Bonnington has a small bitter pill to swallow for the certainty of his words on this occasion or perhaps that's how the punters like them.

[Messenger]

I don't believe that drivers have to drive according to how well supported their horse is but if you are on clearly the best horse in the race and your greatest danger is being locked on the pegs - a top driver makes sure he isn't. I have seen horses not noted for early speed ease all the way back to last to ensure they got off the pegs - it was a 2190m race and it was only a field of 8. The winner was 2nd favourite and yet it had only won for the first time at its previous start - its 34th start!

I suppose you can just say 'that is the way Gavin drives' and therefore that horse's chances were overrated. I cannot help but think that if that was a BIG race and Gavin was on a horse with a similar class edge - he would have had more input into how that race panned out

[Dot]

And there in a nut shell Kev you have it. It wasn't a big race but there are big races for the filly coming up. And who's rights outweigh who's? The right of the punter who has wagered 10s to perhaps 100s of dollars to expect a driver to take every measure to win that race on a short priced favourite even if it means a gut busting run to the rights of the owners/breeders who have invested 10s to perhaps 100s of thousands of dollars in the industry to have their filly given a chance in that race and return in the best possible shape for the big races and the only possible way they will see a return on their investment is to win in the big ones?

The Vicbred super series begins next week and the filly is in the heats. Did JBs form analysis take that into account? Did yours? I don't know, I thought she started too short with a bigger picture in mind. Surely the likelihood of future engagements in bigger races is/should be a part of the many uncertainties in the event taken into account during punters "risk analysis" and determination of what price they will wager at? Maybe it was here, maybe it wasn't I don't know.

[Messenger]

Well summarized Dot. It does not take much for a favourite to start too short in Vic - risk analysis should be everything but sometimes it seems to be non existent. Sure it was an actual race but maybe it should have been treated as a warm up - somewhat 'heat' like, where winning is not everything.

[aussiebreno]

Well summarized Dot. It does not take much for a favourite to start too short in Vic - risk analysis should be everything but sometimes it seems to be non existent. Sure it was an actual race but maybe it should have been treated as a warm up - somewhat 'heat' like, where winning is not everything.

Like Our Overanova was heaving a heat where winning was not everything tonight. Stablemate won though! Why go back to last like that on the odds on pop?

[aussiebreno]

Like Our Overanova was heaving a heat where winning was not everything tonight. Stablemate won though! Why go back to last like that on the odds on pop?

Subsequent runs show Our Overanova a clearly superior horse. Makes me sick.

[Dot]

In the minds of punters Kev, yes, and perhaps this is where JB erred, there's no way of knowing from what he's written if he's taken the fillies future program into account, and at risk of perhaps stepping slightly over the social media policy, he should have and made it clear in his assesment that he'd considered the filly may have had bigger fish to fry. The experienced punters probably considered this for themselves but perhaps the novices could have done with a little more guidance. Right at the start of the replay you can hear the caller make reference to the super sires but too late then for punters of course.

Connections aren't given the luxury of treating a race as a "warm up" they have to be seen to be trying but I guess there will always be trying and trying. The filly was eligible for this race and you can't blame connections for trying to earn a little on the way to the sires but perhaps HRVs programming was a little off here and this should have been a 4yo and older C0 which would no doubt have seen her trial the night before. But as "Bonnie" has pointed out the better 3yos need somewhere to race too. Getting the programming right is obviously not easy but perhaps this needs a little tweak for next year with the COs immediately before the sires heats being 4yo plus and an higher assessed 3yo programmed if there wasn't.

[Messenger]

Not surprised to see an Inquiry (Adjourned) into Lance Justice's drive in the last at Stawell

http://www.harness.org.au/racing/fie...ic#SWC27061802

[Messenger]

Not surprised to see an Inquiry (Adjourned) into Lance Justice's drive in the last at Stawell

http://www.harness.org.au/racing/fie...ic#SWC27061802

"Lance Justice (Beach Skipper NZ) was questioned regarding his tactics through the early and middle stages when after issuing a short challenge to the leader Hot Breakfast in the home straight on the first occasion, he again challenged Hot Breakfast from approximately the 1400m to the 1000m as Lets Save The Day NZ raced three wide around him. After again being unsuccessful he was then forced to race outside of the leader for the remainder of the race before being beaten 28.5m into 6th place. After taking evidence from driver Lance Justice and also taking evidence from driver James Herbertson,( Hot Breakfast), which had led before surrendering the lead at approximately the 900m and driver Jason Lee, (Lets Save The Day NZ), which raced three wide through the middle stages before crossing to take the lead at the 900m, stewards adjourned the inquiry to a time and date to be fixed, to allow them to further investigate certain aspect of the race."

http://www.harness.org.au/racing/ste...&fromstate=vic

[Messenger]

R2 Melton, I hope Ryan Duffy will be asked what he was doing using the whip a lap out if it wasn't team driving

Nathan Jack gave his stablemate a nice cart up too but he can always say that he was going to get the 1x1 by doing so