There are 3 meetings down here Melbourne Cup day. Yarra Glen (their biggest meeting for year people wise) has $5k and $7k races programmed...44 total nominations for meet. Swan Hill that night has $5K and $7K races programmed...43 total nominations for meet. Cobram has a NON TAB meeting programmed that day... all $3.5K races... 61 nominations. Would have thought Yarra Glen closer to most than Cobram and prize money higher. Something not quite working?
Melbourne Cup day has been a big one for YV trots and I thought YV were being very clever scheduling their own Harness cup 2 days later on Oaks Day this year so that they could just leave everything set up. Maybe this has impacted noms or maybe it is just consistent with the trend of late
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Maybe if we get more punters and more turnover the horses will just magically appear?
Originally Posted by Toohard
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Hi Paul,
One of the long term downward trends I spoke about in the public forums is the reduced number of foals born each year. There was a 23% decline for the 5 years to 2016. We can't fix that in 5 minutes, but what we could do was program races so that more of the current horses could compete. For the 6 months from May to October 2017, there was an average 6% more horses competing - they didn't magically appear. In order to maximise the benefit of that, we scheduled extra races. On some occasions that has meant small fields, but that in itself has given more people a chance to win prizemoney, i.e. instead of balloting out horses, we've been splitting races. The importance of punters and turnover is that they generate our revenue that we can use to re-invest back in the industry to promote an increase in breeding, but as I said we can't fix that in 5 minutes!
Cheers, David
We had another $1.10 fav tonight at Mildura and thankfully this one won
It could only happen in our code however
The horse sent out $1.10 fav had had 16 starts and never won
Sure it had finished second or third 6 times but that does not scream $1.10 certainty
It was down in class and the $3,500 C0 tier worked for him
(It was also the first run for a new stable)
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2 months down (I don't know whether I can be bothered continuing my db)
212 of 470 races or 45.1% have had an Odds On fav
123 or 58% of them have been <$1.70
60% have won - $40% have lost
78 or 37% of them have been $7k races
They have been spread fairly evenly across the classes
Melton has produced 33 of them but Shep is only one behind on 32
Brent Lilley has had an incredible 18 or 8.5% of them followed by
David Aiken 14
Emma Stewart 13
Andy Gath 13
Geoff Webster 10
So these 5 trainers have produced nearly a third (32%) of them
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How wrong is it (contrary to the aims of the tiered system) for Eljaykay Phoenix, the winner of 14 races and $241,957 to be plundering the TR1-2 for $1750 at Melton tonight
http://www.harness.org.au/meeting-re...ic#MXC21111605
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As I thought all along, the new system is just a way of covering up a huge stake money cut. Every meeting has less overall prize money than under the old system. The small country clubs have been hit the hardest. Even Melton seems to be down. What are they doing with the money ? Paying for Melton ? Where has it gone ?
Don't die wondering !
I totally agree with you Rick. I have not posted on this topic before at the risk of sounding negative or critical. As owners and breeders there is a noticeable reduction in prizemoney offered. Under the new tiered racing system horses now lose a Country penalty for a win in a $5000 race. The minimum C0 penalty race was previously $6500. The winning owner in a $5000 race receives 87.5% of $2700 ( approx $2350) . This barely covers monthly training fees , vets and extras. There are a multitude of restrictions on nominations and once you have a win it is extremely difficult to place your horse. HRV should be encouraging nice horses to progress through their classes not restricting / hindering them. Prizemoney payments back to last are also factored into the prizemoney disribution for a full field. What happens to this money in the frequent smaller fields? It would appear that the full prizemoney for a race is often not being paid out.
There is a flow on effect to breeders bonuses as well.
Monte races have prizemoney of $5000 yet the winner does not and has never received a penalty. ??? The Monte at the recent Tricodes meeting at Cranbourne was a disgrace and would have been viewed with ridicule by the thoroughbred participants looking on.
HRV have announced a $25,000 bonus for the Country Cups King . Last season the King was Yankee Rockstar . His owners received 87.5% of his cups winnings if $127,000. As part owners we were rapt to receive this recognition and an award for the Rockstar's efforts. I do not believe an extra $25,000 in addition to prizemoney is warranted. This money could be used to fund an increase for 12 Country penalty races from $5000 to $7000.
I very rarely bet. HRV 's priority appears to be the punter. Punters have a multitude of choices when investing their money and I would presume very little loyalty. I acknowledge an owners and breeders bias and a love for the animal that I breed and own. However, if owners and breeders cannot at least break even there is no future in the industry.
It would be interesting to view the prizemoney stats for the first 3 months of this season compared to last year. HRV??
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