Smoken Up and Im Themightyquinn accept Miracle Mile invitations

[David Summers]

if he wins, he gets an invite into the mile, if he runs a place, he will be considered for an invite, and if he misses a place it'll prove Dumesney and the rest of the NSWHRC board correct in not issuing him an invite in the first place.

You're right Eric. I don't think that NSWHRC can lose , no matter how TTL runs in the Cordina Sprint. BTW , I hope he wins or if not , is invited anyway :-) He is real class.

[Lucky Camilla"s Lovechild]

Wow, an unbiased NZ'er, now I've seen everything! Could not agree with your comments more Ray. Yes Terror to Love beat Smoken Up in the NZ Cup, but the NZ cup is a full field of runners over 3200 metres in comparison to the 8 starters and 1609 metres of the Miracle Mile, they're chalk and cheese. Smoken Up is the defending Miracle Mile champion, and is the only horse to break a 1.50 mile in winning in the southern hemisphere. For anyone to think Terror To Love deserved a invite over Smoken up has no idea.

At the end of the day I don't really see the big deal here. Terror To Love will race in the Cordina Sprint on Saturday night, if he wins, he gets an invite into the mile, if he runs a place, he will be considered for an invite, and if he misses a place it'll prove Dumesney and the rest of the NSWHRC board correct in not issuing him an invite in the first place.

What? You've totally contradicted yourself there. Smoken Up has ran 2nd s and a 3rd at his last three attempts at the NZ Cup and is the fastest horse in the Southern Hemishere. How is that chalk and cheese? Both TTL and SU should have immediately received an invite after the NZ Cup. It would be a travisty if TTL loses on Sturday night and misses a start in the Miracle Mile. What will NSWHRC do then?

[The Rainmaker]

What? You've totally contradicted yourself there. Smoken Up has ran 2nd s and a 3rd at his last three attempts at the NZ Cup and is the fastest horse in the Southern Hemishere. How is that chalk and cheese? Both TTL and SU should have immediately received an invite after the NZ Cup. It would be a travisty if TTL loses on Sturday night and misses a start in the Miracle Mile. What will NSWHRC do then?

I dont see how I have contradicted myself at all. A 3200m standing start race to a 1609m mobile race is chalk and cheese is anyones language. Smoken Up is brilliant enough and adaptable enough to be competitive in the top class over both starts types and distances, his record shows that. However Terror To Love's records show he has only won the one race over a mile, and all his recent form is over standing start races over 2400m +, so why should that constitute an automatic invite for the Miracle Mile? They don't give an invite to the Melbourne Cup winner in the thoroughbred world to compete in the Cathay Pacific Hong Kong sprint.

I hope he is as good over the mile as you think he may be because the Miracle Mile could do with an X factor and a NZ representative for some more excitment, but I can hardly see how it would be a travesty if he missed a place in the Cordina sprint on Saturday and failed to gain an invite. If the horse cant place against that field on Saturday night in the Cordina sprint then how the hell can it win the Miracle Mile against a stronger field the following week?

[triplev123]

If they decided to drive Terror To Love a bit 'ugly' over the Mile he would be something to contend with...I've no doubt about that. Genuine stayers always are.

[The Rainmaker]

Yeah if he gains a start I wouldn't be surprised to see him in the mix. A long straight and fast pace will ensure everything gets their chance. Not trying to get the NZ'ers here off side with my posts above, but I think it was the right call not to issue an invite to him soley on his NZ cup win, I'm not for a second doubting the horse's ability itself. For what its worth I think he'll place on Saturday night and gain an invite, therefore a lot of conjecture here over nothing.

[Just Saying]

If they decided to drive Terror To Love a bit 'ugly' over the Mile he would be something to contend with...I've no doubt about that. Genuine stayers always are.

Does he have any open age form in fast run races?

[Lucky Camilla"s Lovechild]

I dont see how I have contradicted myself at all. A 3200m standing start race to a 1609m mobile race is chalk and cheese is anyones language. Smoken Up is brilliant enough and adaptable enough to be competitive in the top class over both starts types and distances, his record shows that. However Terror To Love's records show he has only won the one race over a mile, and all his recent form is over standing start races over 2400m +, so why should that constitute an automatic invite for the Miracle Mile? They don't give an invite to the Melbourne Cup winner in the thoroughbred world to compete in the Cathay Pacific Hong Kong sprint.

I hope he is as good over the mile as you think he may be because the Miracle Mile could do with an X factor and a NZ representative for some more excitment, but I can hardly see how it would be a travesty if he missed a place in the Cordina sprint on Saturday and failed to gain an invite. If the horse cant place against that field on Saturday night in the Cordina sprint then how the hell can it win the Miracle Mile against a stronger field the following week?

Of course a 3200m standing start is different to a 1609m mobile! But the same horses run in these 2 types of races, unlike the thoroughbreds. And yes, he should give a good account of himself on Saturday night, if not win it. But what if he gets skittled. Does NSWHRC make hippocrites of themselves and put him in anyway?

[Just Saying]

And what about Highview Tommy? His run in the NZ Cup was actually more impressive than TTL's. No clamouring for a run for him?

[MasterK]

TTL may have only won one 1609m race but you must remember he is only 4. Smoken Up is what 10? how many attempts has he had at running over the mile unlike TTL whos only had a few

[p plater]

TTL may have only won one 1609m race but you must remember he is only 4. Smoken Up is what 10? how many attempts has he had at running over the mile unlike TTL whos only had a few

Looking at Smoken Up's record at Menangle Park over the mile, it appears he's had 7 starts for 5 wins and 2 2nds. All bar one in group 1 status races.
He has 4 sub 1.51 wins including the 1.48.5 at his last start there..........No wonder the Club wants him there