Has anyone thought about Simulated High Altitude Training. Noel Daley uses it and i think Luke used to work for him in the states.
No way in the world was Mccarthy senior dominating up here before Luke came back from America, i may be wrong but dont thinks so the Mccarthys came from Nsw to Queensland.
Has anyone thought about Simulated High Altitude Training. Noel Daley uses it and i think Luke used to work for him in the states.
Have whoever you want on but don't ever have yourself on
Would you be so kind to show me any were in my post were I have accused any one of anything .
If you would like to get off your high horse and read what I have said you will find that I have simply expressed my and many others view that what we are seeing from most of lukes horses is improvement that it very hard to explain.
Tazmin you say you used to go to the trots up there and see Luke and his dad train winners , can you honestly say you ever saw there horses improve 50 to 100 mtrs in a matter of weeks and watch them win by as far and with the ease that some of these are( do your self a favour and watch letusrocku on sat night)
Now people who have been around a while and know you can't improve horses that much with physical training have a right to have their suspicions whether a few died in the wool luke fan's like your self and Craig like it or not.
As has been pointed out many times and I have admitted I have no proof of any wrong doing , all I can go on is common sense and History.
History is full of spectactular improved performances that have proven to be Drug related , but I can not recall many that have occurred with out them, you might like to list them for me and for every one you come up with i'll give you 5 that were.
Craig wanted to open his big mouth and slander every trainer and driver in NSW by saying they were being out trained and driven by Luke ,but when I mentioned some of the names he was belittling he went to water with the old " I never mentioned those people line " witch I thought was a cowardice retreat from a pathetic statement. ( and his next post did nothing to alter my opinion)
Here you are sticking up for a brave Man that would threaten some one with "you'll find out how bad and nasty this world is" ,which makes you as bad as he is.Then you have the gall to accuse me of personal attacks .
As for the rest of your post about good horses trained by old and new methods, I would love to think your right.
Last edited by candykisses; 01-13-2012 at 11:25 PM.
Hi Cassie
I've enjoyed reading your posts and it's good to have you on this forum. I hope that you don't get involved in any personal stuff or flaming because from what I have seen that usually ends in people disappearing from the discussion, which would be a shame in your case. This is an emotive issue in some respects but lets all stick to the issue and try to leave the personal stuff to one side.
I was just reading the NSW and VIC websites and the result's off them and came up with
Luke Mac -35.9 % W/S state wide and 30% Metro
Kerryn Manning - 35.45% State wide
Shane Cramp -37.50 % State wide
Dean Braun - 36.70% State wide
If these are correct where is the domination we are led to believe i might be slow on the uptake but i fail to see it as that bad from these figure's when compared to our closest neighbour.
Have whoever you want on but don't ever have yourself on
Have we got some drama queens all of a sudden or what. EVERYONE read post 62 again then read 59 again - which it was in response to. WTF would require someone to start threatening legal action. Please quote the relevant parts if you find them because they would seem to be nothing more than banter to me - yes BANTER
per un PUGNO di DOLLARI
What do we put down the run by Mr feelgood and i wonder what luke said to John when he come up 3 wide.
Luke could have cotrolled that race if his dad didn't come 3 wide, any other horse and he would have parked it 3 wide. John made the race for Mightyquinn. Mr Feelgood wouldn't of won even if he kept the death anyway, went average. Horse in front Dasher V C went massive would of beat Mr Feelgood, home in 26.9, you would have to consider yourself unlucky to get beat if you are involved in that horse, not much more you can do to win a race.
Oh Greg,Thanku!!!!!
Aussiebrenno initially raised the Kerryn stat but funny enough the LM knockers who hang a man without a trial, had NO comment on that.
Thanku for providing real proof stats from that website, maybe, but unlikely, some may start to think this apparent domination does actually stem from as Craig put it so well, the Tall Poppy Syndrome.
We now need a thread for each of the above successful Trainers for the LM haters to accuse them of being drug cheats.
Also by the way would love to get a link put on here to the actual races, horses names and dates on the harness.org website where we can all b shown proof of horses who have recently improved by "50-100metres in a matter of a few weeks", apparently Cassie knows examples of this....................