After Sunday there will be no breeders left. What a disaster !
Brenno,
May I suggest you look up the dam of any good horse currently racing and have a look at where her best performed son or daughter was produced. If the majority are not in the first 4 foals produced I'll happily admit I was wrong. Lombo Pocket Watch was the 6th or 7th foal outside of that the majority of top performed horses currently racing will prove me correct.
An even simpler exercise may be to go through a catalogue and do the same exercise.
Hope this provides you with the hard evidence you are looking for.
Mitch.
I've selected one of the oldest mares I know.
http://www.harness.org.au/ausbreed/r...orse_id=345519
Started off O.K but the best two, Her Sparky Self and Robric Jonboy, were when she was an older mare. Even now when she is crazy old the last couple have been every bit as good as the first few if not better.
http://www.harness.org.au/ausbreed/r...orse_id=333644
HRNZ won't link correctly but Scandalman is the 5th foal, showing you don't have to be early.
Waldenburg is the 6th foal, the best in his family.
The first Aussie home in the Hunter Cup, Heza Buzzin was a late one. So was his brother Sting Lika Bee. Hi Ho Silverheels was 6th, the first 5 done nothing at all.
Your Pocket Watch example got me onto Tailamade Lombo, another later foal. Espeshilimade Lombo was no slouch as then last of many foals from Butterfly Trunkey.
That wasn't all that hard, out of those 6 broodmares I mentioned ^^^ I looked at 11 all up (The others being the mares of Choise Acheiver, Idea Scott, Safe and Sound, Smoken Up and Decorated Jasper) .
I'm not saying older mares are better. But I'm saying don't write them off.
That wasn't even my main point of posting, my main point of posting was don't say you have statistics when you got nothing. Very misleading.
Yeah, so many people are of that or similar opinion (and probably for good reason - it probably isn't some wives tale)...but still you can't sprout stats and put something as fact when its mere opinion from past experience. A lot of people do it and I'm not having a go at Mitch - his posting eg Vic Derby heats thread has been good to read.
But if there are stats out there somewhere would love to see.
Just looked her up myself, great mare.
As im retired & have time I also looked up some intresting stuff (well to me it is)
I looked up about a dozen millionaires & where they are.
Blakes a Fake 4th foal - his mum 6th foal
Monkey King 8th foal - his mum 13th foal
Smoken Up 1st foal - his mum 10th foal
Changeover 5th .......his mum 8th
Shakamaker 4th........his mum 4th
Our Sir Vancelot 4th.......his mum 8th
Village Kid 4th..........mum 1st
Westburn Grant 3rd......mum 5th
Elsu 7th foal............mum 12th
Flashing Red 5th.......mum 3rd
Holmes D G 7th......his mum 10th
And other very good horses...
Mr Swinger 8th foal
Fleur De Lil 6th
Smooth Satin 5th
Kathryn Dancer 8th
Emmas Only 8th
Slipnslide 6th
Im themightyquinn 6th
Kepple bay 10th (as Harvey said)
Mr Nickle 13th ( as Harvey said)
Stunin Cullen 6th
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