No doubt everyone is operating within the rules,my criticism is aimed at the regulators who allow this farce to continue.
There is absolutely no insinuation of wrongdoing it is merely a problem of transparency.Justice must also be SEEN to be done...
As I understand it each and all of these persons is licenced to operate a training establishment according to the rules each and every licenceholder operates under in each of the states and Australia wide. The day to day running of these establishments is the business of those under whose name and identity they are identified. They are the one who take the responsibility for when things go right and go wrong. As posted earlier the policy in NSW has been amended for horses trained by disqualified licenceholders. Again and for the last of many reminders by a number of posters, NO licenceholders in the ....... family are disqualified.
Those who cant understand a very simple concept as this will often struggle with their imagination and what is or is not a joke.
Those who have a problem with how trainers run their programs should front up at the front gate and ask the questions directly rather than continue to malign by stealth or insinuation here. That is clearly NOT a joke.
Last edited by teecee; 02-24-2013 at 02:02 PM.
No doubt everyone is operating within the rules,my criticism is aimed at the regulators who allow this farce to continue.
There is absolutely no insinuation of wrongdoing it is merely a problem of transparency.Justice must also be SEEN to be done...
I have come to the decision to remove myself from this forum. Seems as criticism and opinions over comments I have made have overflowed to other areas. I can take a personal attack on this forum and will defend any comments I have made on here, but won't tolerate criticism or verbal attacks to members of my immediate family publicly or on other forms of social networking. I have never meant to discredit any person or persons on this forum both in the user context and participants involved in this industry. If I have, please accept this as my personal apology. In the meantime, many winners and good luck to all.
Lenem couldn't agree more
It has got nothing to do with anyone other than the owners who is training their horse or who is down as the trainer. In a big stable do you really think the named trainer is actually doing all the work on any said horse.
We had a horse race who won 11 races and the only time the trainer drove it doing fast work was when he drove it in a race.So who was the trainer ? I didn't care who was doing the hard work we got the result's.
Have whoever you want on but don't ever have yourself on
The trainer of any large stable is there to be mainly a supervisor, he has stable hands to follow his training instructions. He may drive the horse in fast work to sort out any problems or to know when the horse is ready to win.Of course his role changes if he is a trainer only, but the basic principle of him being a supervisor remains the same.
Clayton and Emma & Luke and Belinda train as a team- there is no "murkiness" to it. They all dedicate their lives to the horses and are skilled trainers thats why they have results. Before you insinuate maybe you should spend a few days at some of these stables and then you would see how tirelessly these trainers work. There is a reason "all I really hear about is how great they can train", and that is because they work from daylight to dusk 7 days a week to get great results!!
If Clayton and Emma and Luke & Belinda train as a team why aren't both names in the racebook? Murkiness continues...
Anyway my reason for posters..."Who is the real owner?"
Up until Bernie Kelly's first misdeamour (Greg Kelly) all his horses were in his or his and wifes name. Now they all appear in wifes name. No prizes for guessing why.
Bernie is now DQed again (this time horses in Dianne name and were allowed to be transferred to other trainers).
Surely under these circumstances Dianne Kelly should not be given an award for NSW Owners Association owner of the month. But no, the rewards are continual. (Another example of rewards far outweighing risks for those looking to bend rules in harness racing)
The HRNSW released article http://www.harness.org.au/news-artic...?news_id=20479 even makes mention of the 'Kelly family'. May as well have said Bernie instead of Kelly family. Maybe it applies to all Kelly's that they can do bad deeds yet get congratulated, eg Ned Kelly!!
My point is an owner so closely linked with shouldn't be being rewarded like this. She is in running for a prize for trip for two to Vegas. Wonder who she will take if she wins?
"Hey Bernie, positive swab, take a small holiday...oh we'll even give you tickets to Vegas!"
Thoughts?