This thread is turning into a maths tutorial-right up your alley Shane!lol
This thread is turning into a maths tutorial-right up your alley Shane!lol
Lasse did you find a Newcastle premiership table somewhere or spreadsheet it like I did? The reason I ask is that although I only recorded Shane's, it seemed to me that a small number of trainers won a lot of Newcastle races and would like to see the premiership table (I am not going back and counting everybody's wins!)Originally Posted by lasse
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Hi all,
I am not overly familiar with racing in regional NSW & I haven't really got the time to do too much detailed research into this subject so I will make a general comment.
I for one will never begrudge any trainer for working hard & getting huge results but obviously this does cause some problems for the sport in certain areas.
But I am of the opinion that careful programming can go along way to helping this sort of situation.So maybe this is an area that can be looked at instead of throwing daggers at trainers..
Yes I know most big stables have their "second stringers" but in general,smart programming/conditions can help...this also overflows to trainers placing their horses a bit smarter.
As a hobby trainer,who works a full time job,with a small team of giveaways I have to do this..granted some areas have alot more options than others..
Tough situation in the Hunter by the looks,agreed.
No current premiership details on www.newcastletrots.com site.I went through the seasons results same as you.Off the top of my head I would think Kevin Pizzutto might have a better strike rate at Newcastle.The club would have the figures.
I doubt anyone could have a better strike rate per race contested (51%) but maybe per starter. I was only scanning for Shane but it seemed to me that you saw other names winning quite a lot too: Pizzuto, Formosa, Harmey, Roots
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Shane,
You probably need to talk to HRNSW as to the exact reasons behind more Saturday night dates for Newcastle. All I know is what I read in the Trotguide this week. As to the why I can only suggest it was at the request of the Newcastle Club as I know they have done it tough after they lost all the Saturday nights, Ros Gigg was always On my case big time hounding for the dates back when ever we got together.
As to what they race on Sky 1 or 2 will be interesting as going from a Friday Sky 1 night to posably Saturday on Sky 2.
I do understand your concerns in trying to be in two places on the same night is going to be extremely difficult to say the least.
Hopefully you can continue with what you do best for the sport by finding a way around it all. If anyone can find a way you will.
All the best,
Rob Nalder
I am beginning to think it was a bad idea starting this thread, firstly some people seem to think I was having a dig at Shane, which is 100% incorrect, the point was ENTIRELY to highlight that current circumstances are making it difficult for many smaller participants to continue and I know ( from the number of private messages/texts and phone calls) the vast majority of our learned forum posters have interpreted the points of the thread as such.
The overall good of the game has always and will always be my personal objective, I have only ever been a hobbyist but have always been a passionate one who , anyone who actually knows me, also knows I'm someone who loves heroes and despises pretenders in EVERY AVENUE of life.
So I would ask those who think I'm having a dig at Shane to think again......the thread was and is about the game, not the players. I thought I made that clear in the opening post but apparently not sufficiently so.
With regards to the allocation of more Saturday meetings to Newcastle, about all I can add to that is about bloody time, the club at Newcastle, (of which I am a member and also a director in it's formative years in it's current form back in the early 80's) was forced to race TAB meetings on Saturdays a very long time ago because Moonee Valley wanted to race Friday nights in concert with Harold Park in order to increase their own TAB turnover and hence returns ( at the time Club/ TAB payments were a defined percentage of turnover). So Newcastle, who at the time were racing most Friday nights and getting very good turnover and hence TAB funding partly because they were racing "in concert" with Harold Park, got SHAFTED and given the less lucrative Saturday night meetings.
The Newcastle club, lead exceptionally well for a long time by Ross had done a superb job of making Saturday Night racing a real success story and the club developed a business model which has been /was very successful for close to twenty years.
As such I'm not real keen to hear anyone having a whinge about Newcastle racing on a Saturday.
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