Good on ya lads...I HATE THIS SORT OF SHIT !!!..Cruelty & blatant lack of respect for animals that try their best are 2 of the main reasons why Im seriously thinking of hanging up the hopples & dusting off the riding gear
Good on ya lads...I HATE THIS SORT OF SHIT !!!..Cruelty & blatant lack of respect for animals that try their best are 2 of the main reasons why Im seriously thinking of hanging up the hopples & dusting off the riding gear
Why send it to the RSPCA, that is just trouble making. Alert the stewards is plenty. They will deal with it.Originally Posted by HISGEN65
Did you alert the RSPCA that 3 horses were put down at the olympics cross country, or showpumping, more than likely not!!!!
I can do as I please Geoff & I have. The RSPCA are the only ones capable of doing something about this sort of abuse & the stewards had their chance & pray tell what did they do ... A $200 fine does not cut it.
The World Horse Welfare Association were present at all olympic equestrian events Geoff, Im sure the horses were treated more humanaly that the thousands that go through the doggers yards every year from the racing industry.
Don't you dare put the morals of the equestrian trainers & riders in the same cateragory as the racing industry. The racing industry does not compare with their standard.
Trish
You have made a big statement here Trish, Why would you think that the equestrian trainers & riders have better morals or care more about their horses than those in the racing industry.Spend a little time at pony club on the weekend and watch how the little darlings ride their horses using their spurs and whips.
Pony clubs and other equestrian groups operate by a very strict code of conduct . They do not tolerate cruelty . Little darlings with spurs and whips are not committing acts of cruelty . Their pony's have such good lives , they wouldn't move without them .
The act of hitting a horse with a whip is not what I have a beef about . You couldn't hit them harder than they hit each other . I think the cruelty occurs when the horse has hit the wall and the driver keeps flogging them causing them to "bust" themselves . More dammage is done internally than externally and the worst thing is there is no reason whatsoever to do it . I watched a driver hit his horse 67 times from the 400 at Albion Park and the stewards report said they cautioned him . Unbeleivable
Mark always said that when he first came into Harness racing , the greatest difference between it and eventing was that in 20 years eventing never once did he witness an act of cruelty , but in harness racing you can see it at every track every day of the week . Big statement ---NO just the truth
I do not know of any horse racing group that tolerates cruelty,we all have a different use for our horses and one sport cannot say that they treat their horses any better than the other. It might surprise you but we all love our horses even though we have different uses for them. Remember these same animals have helped build our country by ploughing our land and helping to fight our wars. The pleasure horse of today entertains us in many different ways and as such should be appreciated by all of us no matter what discipline we follow.
I am now watching the jumping at the olympic games and enjoying it, lighten up Trish and enjoy the great sport of harness racing. The few that cheat and be cruel to their horses will get what they deserve. The stewards have erred on this one
[VVV] Every track, every week? Trish, that's an extremely innacurate characterisation.
I've been involved in Harness Racing in one way or another since back when I was too short to even see over the outside fence and instead had to watch proceedings through the mesh, which is I guess some 39 years or so. In all of that time the number of times I have seen or have been reliably told about someone being straight up cruel to a horse is very small indeed. Instances are memorable no doubt...but by no means commonplace.
Harness, TB's, Jumps, Eventing, Pony Club, Polo, Endurance, you name it.......there's no equine persuit that is a paragon of virtue & none that have a mortgage on bad behaviour.
Unfortunately there will always be someone who loses their shit & lines one up or there will be someone who thinks the way to get one to go straight is to, as Phil noted, use a bit of barbed wire on a line or whatever.
When that happens there's no better pressure that can be brought to bear in any and all such instances than peer pressure, hence the reason for this thread. If that doesn't happen then the next step is suffering the morally anointed, batik sarong wearing, forelock tugging outrage of the Free The Battery Hens Collective & their associated minions...and that, as an Industry, we do not need.
Geoff i was thanking the others for bringing this to my attention more than thanking them for alerting the RSPCA ...I accept,however upsetting,that horses die in racing & equestrian pursuits but whipping the crap out of a horse in the public eye is what I was on about..no friggin need for it
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