Agree Harvey. There seems to be major differences between the two countries. Very difficult to explain how that could be.
Agree Harvey. There seems to be major differences between the two countries. Very difficult to explain how that could be.
I think there are a couple of things to note :Originally Posted by Viv Strangman
When you are looking at NZ results and suggesting that Muscles Yankee for example has only one horse of note, you are missing horses exported to Australia, including another top class trotter in Skyvalley. Besides Twist and Twirl, Artsplace has sired in NZ horses like Strike Up The Band $204k, Flles Like Magic $169k, Sir Artsplace $166k, Jacka Twain $161k.
When evaluating the performance of Artsplace and his 154 NZ bred foals, keep in mind that they are racing against large crops of foals by Christian Cullen, Bettors Delight, Mach Three and Art Major. Don't underestimate how good these stallions are. These horses are world class with BD, MT and AM currently 1st, 4th and 6th in the current season all aged standings. Note also, it is a long time since Artsplace dominated the northern hemisphere breeding scene.
Last edited by eliteblood; 05-16-2013 at 09:45 PM.
Another Artsplace is Carpenters Daughter $168k
She is one of the six $100,000 winners to have been bred and raced in Nz from his 154 live foals.I am sure the breeders of those 154 foals were hoping Artsplace would leave a colt like Art Major 2.7m--Grinfromeartoear1.7m--Sportswriter1.5m--Artiscape1.4m-- Dreamaway1.3m or a filly like Worldly Beauty1.9m--Glowing Report1.9m-- Galliera1.8m--Steinams Place1.4m--Armbro Amoretto1.2m. For a stallion that left 44 in 1:50 and 17 millionaires in North America, his record of 6 $100,000 winners in Nz is not an indication of what a sensational sire he was.
[VVV] Adios/Abercrombie/Artsplace blood has never really taken hold in NZ...certainly to nowhere near the extent that it has fired here in AUS. You could level the same critique in reverse insofar as Direct Scooter blood is concerned. That has invariably fired in NZ whilst to date it has largely not done so here in Australia. So great has been the relative disparity in siring performance of that sireline that it's very possible the great Somebeachsomewhere will end up producing his best of his Southern Hemisphere bred offspring as a result of fresh chilled semen exported from AUS to NZ.
Oh so true. He has had such an impact with his first crop in NA and he looks such a great fit with Nz mares but maybe a question mark in Australia. Not about being successful, just the level of success.
No deal has been struck for Somebeachsomewhere to stand in either Oz or Nz, for this coming season, so Frozen might be the only option with him. Have a look at Art Major with Direct Scooter line mares in NZ, the cross is showing some promise.
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