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    How do we incorporate pace makers?

    Admittedly Gp1s but I have watched every single race on Sky today and the best two races all day were Verry Ellegant in the Tancred at Rosehill and the Gold Crown.

    Dancetaria made a mid race move and set a hot pace in the Tancred, and Mach Dan softened up Lochinvar Chief at Bathurst. We don't see it much because Danceteria folded like a pack of cards and Lochinvar got beat (and Mach Dan probably wouldn't have run a place either even if it didn't gallop). It doesn't happen because it screws the pacemaker up.

    Thinking aloud, have pacemakers with stopwatch depending on grade of race and track/track condition run within certain time standards until the 800m when they peel off. Instead of barrier draw just start them in racing pattern - eg peg horses and running line horses already in an order based on PBD. Have pacemakers lead up both lines. Cant overtake pacemakers only come 3+ wide up to the gig beside them to the 800m. Can have PBD and the pacemaker in the running line could even be made to go slower than the pacemaker on the inside so the outside horses have to give them 20m at the 800m.

    Do lose some of the excitement off the gate and its gets a bit messy with making sure the pacemaker sets the right pace, and visually probably not great seeing them peel off.

    If not maybe actually set the time for slow sectionals so they actually are quick sectionals. And it shouldn't just be the leader who gets fined, its the drivers letting the leader get away with it that should be fined.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aussiebreno View Post
    How do we incorporate pace makers?

    Admittedly Gp1s but I have watched every single race on Sky today and the best two races all day were Verry Ellegant in the Tancred at Rosehill and the Gold Crown.

    Dancetaria made a mid race move and set a hot pace in the Tancred, and Mach Dan softened up Lochinvar Chief at Bathurst. We don't see it much because Danceteria folded like a pack of cards and Lochinvar got beat (and Mach Dan probably wouldn't have run a place either even if it didn't gallop). It doesn't happen because it screws the pacemaker up.

    Thinking aloud, have pacemakers with stopwatch depending on grade of race and track/track condition run within certain time standards until the 800m when they peel off. Instead of barrier draw just start them in racing pattern - eg peg horses and running line horses already in an order based on PBD. Have pacemakers lead up both lines. Cant overtake pacemakers only come 3+ wide up to the gig beside them to the 800m. Can have PBD and the pacemaker in the running line could even be made to go slower than the pacemaker on the inside so the outside horses have to give them 20m at the 800m.

    Do lose some of the excitement off the gate and its gets a bit messy with making sure the pacemaker sets the right pace, and visually probably not great seeing them peel off.

    If not maybe actually set the time for slow sectionals so they actually are quick sectionals. And it shouldn't just be the leader who gets fined, its the drivers letting the leader get away with it that should be fined.
    Which race are you referring to Breno, I have been trying to work it out but

    ANSWER: Working my way through the Bathurst replays and it was the next race you meant Ideal Dan
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    Quote Originally Posted by Messenger View Post
    Which race are you referring to Breno, I have been trying to work it out but

    ANSWER: Working my way through the Bathurst replays and it was the next race you meant Ideal Dan
    Ah yep Ideal Dan oops

    I should have called Lochinvar Chief 'Lochinvar Art' to really confuse everybody.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aussiebreno View Post
    How do we incorporate pace makers?

    Admittedly Gp1s but I have watched every single race on Sky today and the best two races all day were Verry Ellegant in the Tancred at Rosehill and the Gold Crown.

    Dancetaria made a mid race move and set a hot pace in the Tancred, and Mach Dan softened up Lochinvar Chief at Bathurst. We don't see it much because Danceteria folded like a pack of cards and Lochinvar got beat (and Mach Dan probably wouldn't have run a place either even if it didn't gallop). It doesn't happen because it screws the pacemaker up.

    Thinking aloud, have pacemakers with stopwatch depending on grade of race and track/track condition run within certain time standards until the 800m when they peel off. Instead of barrier draw just start them in racing pattern - eg peg horses and running line horses already in an order based on PBD. Have pacemakers lead up both lines. Cant overtake pacemakers only come 3+ wide up to the gig beside them to the 800m. Can have PBD and the pacemaker in the running line could even be made to go slower than the pacemaker on the inside so the outside horses have to give them 20m at the 800m.

    Do lose some of the excitement off the gate and its gets a bit messy with making sure the pacemaker sets the right pace, and visually probably not great seeing them peel off.

    If not maybe actually set the time for slow sectionals so they actually are quick sectionals. And it shouldn't just be the leader who gets fined, its the drivers letting the leader get away with it that should be fined.
    How do we not incorporate pacemakers - Gloucester Park last Friday night.

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    Quote Originally Posted by arlington View Post
    How do we not incorporate pacemakers - Gloucester Park last Friday night.
    Which race?

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    Quote Originally Posted by arlington View Post
    How do we not incorporate pacemakers - Gloucester Park last Friday night.
    http://www.harness.org.au/racing/fie...20#GPM27032005

    That was terrible

    http://www.harness.org.au/racing/ste...l/?mc=GP270320

    Jeepers all right, if the stewards accept that crap from the Halls, they will accept anything
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    Some interesting reading from a couple of stewards reports over the weekend.

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