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Messenger
01-01-2018, 04:50 PM
I looked that name up the other day but now I cannot find it - is he married to a Turnbull?

Greg Hando
01-01-2018, 05:27 PM
I looked that name up the other day but now I cannot find it - is he married to a Turnbull?
Yes I think so Kevin

KTQ
01-20-2018, 02:04 PM
Clock at GP must have been on rollerskates last night. Our horse went 1.52.6. Cut For An Ace went 1.51.6 (.2 outside Chicago Bulls record) and a 1.53.8 for Abraxas Blues. These were all M0-M3! Errors pretty sure

Messenger
01-20-2018, 02:14 PM
Clock at GP must have been on rollerskates last night. Our horse went 1.52.6. Cut For An Ace went 1.51.6 (.2 outside Chicago Bulls record) and a 1.53.8 for Abraxas Blues. These were all M0-M3! Errors pretty sure

They would have had the track in tip top condition for the big night Katie and you wouldn't think they could have all those times wrong BUT I can see your point - Cut For An Ace is a 10yo improving his best MR by 2.5 secs

http://www.harness.org.au/racing/fields/race-fields/?mc=GP190118

Edit: I have since found that he was only beaten 9.5m when they went 1.52.5 so maybe it was only a 1.5 sec personal best for Cut For An Ace - still amazing for a 10yo

arlington
01-20-2018, 02:30 PM
Not a real quick time, what did everyone think of Bechers Brook last night at GP?

http://www.harness.org.au/racing/fields/race-fields/?mc=GP190118#GPM19011854

KTQ
01-20-2018, 02:38 PM
Not a real quick time, what did everyone think of Bechers Brook last night at GP?

http://www.harness.org.au/racing/fields/race-fields/?mc=GP190118#GPM19011854

Slowish time. Drew 1. Didn't do a lick of work. I wouldn't say it was impressive. Lady De La Renta went better

KTQ
01-20-2018, 02:40 PM
They would have had the track in tip top condition for the big night Katie and you wouldn't think they could have all those times wrong BUT I can see your point - Cut For An Ace is a 10yo improving his best MR by 2.5 secs

http://www.harness.org.au/racing/fields/race-fields/?mc=GP190118

Edit: I have since found that he was only beaten 9.5m when they went 1.52.5 so maybe it was only a 1.5 sec personal best for Cut For An Ace - still amazing for a 10yo

Thing is there's a biiiiig difference between ability of Bull vs Ace. 1.51.6 is insanely fast on GP. Only the best can do it

Although although although small 8 horse field helps

arlington
01-20-2018, 02:43 PM
Slowish time. Drew 1. Didn't do a lick of work. I wouldn't say it was impressive. Lady De La Renta went better


I'd have him but yep, was expecting him to scoot to the line a bit better. Your bloke's heading to NSW Katie?

arlington
01-20-2018, 02:45 PM
They would have had the track in tip top condition for the big night Katie and you wouldn't think they could have all those times wrong BUT I can see your point - Cut For An Ace is a 10yo improving his best MR by 2.5 secs

http://www.harness.org.au/racing/fields/race-fields/?mc=GP190118

Edit: I have since found that he was only beaten 9.5m when they went 1.52.5 so maybe it was only a 1.5 sec personal best for Cut For An Ace - still amazing for a 10yo


The old fella might be feeling it like Lazarus this morning.

KTQ
01-20-2018, 02:53 PM
I'd have him but yep, was expecting him to scoot to the line a bit better. Your bloke's heading to NSW Katie?
Bechers is definitely nice looking

Yeh Jack Mac's in for Pinjarra Monday first up. Probably still a bit fat I'd say but if all goes well in the next couple weeks and he comes back as good as he was as a baby I think dad will take him over. Might take Culpeka from nz too...

Messenger
01-20-2018, 04:00 PM
I'd have him but yep, was expecting him to scoot to the line a bit better. Your bloke's heading to NSW Katie?

You just want to become a Studmaster :)

arlington
01-20-2018, 09:08 PM
You just want to become a Studmaster :)

So many ways to reply to that Kev :D ...even with SBSW over a BD mare, with my current prowess as a stud master...it may very well mean being gelded :(

Messenger
02-03-2018, 02:34 PM
I finally caught up with Cruz Bromac's run from last Saturday (having missed R1)

He was first up for a year and from the horror draw was 3w for 1200m (2 bends) of the 1720m trip so the 1.51.6 was a super run as suggested in the following article

http://www.harnesslink.com/Australia/Cruz-Bromac-sectionals-set-tongues-wagging

It will be interesting to see what he does over the 2240 of tonight's R6

Messenger
02-05-2018, 10:10 PM
3yo Higherthananeagle broke the Cobram 2170m Tk Rec today in the George Croxford Tribute going 1.55.2.
The record was nearly 8yo so it was probably overdue to go

http://www.harness.org.au/racing/fields/race-fields/?mc=CO050218&ms=vic#COC05021807

Showgrounds
02-06-2018, 01:14 AM
3yo Higherthananeagle broke the Cobram 2170m Tk Rec today in the George Croxford Tribute going 1.55.2.
The record was nearly 8yo so it was probably overdue to go

http://www.harness.org.au/racing/fields/race-fields/?mc=CO050218&ms=vic#COC05021807

And is a full brother to Fly Like an Eagle. You'd be hoping he had some ability.

arlington
02-06-2018, 09:03 AM
3yo Higherthananeagle broke the Cobram 2170m Tk Rec today in the George Croxford Tribute going 1.55.2.
The record was nearly 8yo so it was probably overdue to go

http://www.harness.org.au/racing/fields/race-fields/?mc=CO050218&ms=vic#COC05021807


Great first up run from the 2nd horse, Shez All Rock. And she's a real head turner.

Messenger
02-08-2018, 10:25 PM
Bee Gees Bandit set a NTR in the R1 C0 at Horsham today rating 1.53.8 despite sitting in the death

http://www.harness.org.au/racing/fields/race-fields/?mc=HS080218&ms=vic

Messenger
03-09-2018, 07:03 PM
3yo filly Speak No Evil took nearly 2 secs off the Maryborough Tk Rec when she rated 1.52.4 today

Speak No Evil has only had 5 lifetime starts (all this year) and has now notched up 3 wins at Maryborough in 5 weeks

Her dam, Top Tempo was a star juvenile and she has now produced 3 top class juveniles from 3 different sires as her best siblings include Musical Delight and Queen of Pop - all fillies, all bred by Lauriston

It was a huge run by the 2nd horse Boncel Benjamin who sat in the death (with a horse pressuring him 3w for much of the race) as he was only beaten 8m and would have easily smashed the record too

http://www.harness.org.au/racing/fields/race-fields/?mc=MH090318&fromstate=vic#MHC09031803

Messenger
03-09-2018, 07:28 PM
The track at Maryborough was obviously sizzling as Konan broke the old 1690m record in his race and
I think you will find the whole field broke that 2190m Tk Rec in race 8 when Without You rated 1.54.6 taking 0.9 sec off the record (last horse It Is Billy was only beaten 11m)

http://www.harness.org.au/racing/fields/race-fields/?mc=MH090318&fromstate=vic#MHC09031801

Greg Hando
03-11-2018, 10:38 PM
Spare Me Days broke the 2480mt track record at Young on Sat night in winning the G3 Young Cup rating 1.57 for Brad Hewitt

aussiebreno
03-11-2018, 11:40 PM
Spare Me Days broke the 2480mt track record at Young on Sat night in winning the G3 Young Cup rating 1.57 for Brad Hewitt
He went 1.57.0 in the 2016 Cup. Went 1.57.1 last night so just shy.

Greg Hando
03-16-2018, 02:04 AM
Realised that after i looked at Young stat's after i was only a year behind but none the less a great effort

Richard prior
03-16-2018, 06:19 AM
Lol Greg, I’m still trying to catch up after 2 years away from the sport, Nice to see you mate

Messenger
03-18-2018, 12:13 PM
Soho Tribeca's 1.56.0 for 2690m in the Kilmore Cup last night was a new Tk Rec by a whole 2.7 sec

http://www.harness.org.au/racing/fields/race-fields/?mc=KI170318&ms=vic#KIC17031801

Richard prior
03-18-2018, 01:12 PM
Hell of a run by the Winner Kev, Damn He’s a tough bugger, A little bit of Blacks a Fake about that run

Greg Hando
03-24-2018, 07:41 PM
Mista Lombo new TR at Bathurst last night 1.52.4 for the 1730mts for John Mcarthy

Messenger
03-25-2018, 12:46 AM
1.53.1 for 2240m in the Melton Plate is an excellent run by Shadow Sax
Soho Tribeca deserves a spell

http://www.harness.org.au/racing/fields/race-fields/?mc=MX240318&fromstate=vic#MXM24031807

Messenger
04-01-2018, 09:53 PM
They came home in 55 flat at the end of the 2627m Warragul Cup so no surprise that the placegetters were in the 1,2,3 positions

http://www.harness.org.au/racing/fields/race-fields/?mc=WR010418&fromstate=vic#WRC01041801

Messenger
04-02-2018, 08:33 PM
Starting at 20/1 mare Erico took a chunk off the Wedderburn 1750m Tk Rec when she rated 1.56.9 (mind you prior to this the 2150m Tk Rec was better than the 1750)

http://www.harness.org.au/racing/fields/race-fields/?mc=WD020418&fromstate=vic#WDC02041802

Messenger
04-09-2018, 10:35 PM
Me thinks the last race at Yarra Valley today is a new track record to Beach Surge rating 1.54.3 in the death

http://www.harness.org.au/racing/fields/race-fields/?mc=YG090418&ms=vic#YGC09041801

Richard prior
04-10-2018, 01:17 AM
Very impressive Kev, Beach Surge mother Lagoon Lady was a pretty decent performer on the track also

Messenger
04-10-2018, 08:49 PM
Thinking about how horses break records without finding the pegs (like Beach Surge death seating it to the record at YV), I was doing some calculations on how much faster they actually go for every sulky width they are off the pegs.
For a short race like at YV with only 2 bends = a circle and the circumference of a circle is 2πR so every 1.4m off (taking a sulky width to be 1.3m) means 2 x 3.14 x 1.4 = aprox 9m further.

I was going to add the 9m to the length of the race eg for Beach Surge it became 1659 instead of 1650m then divide the race time by this distance then multiply it by 1609 to get the Mile Rate

but before I did this I struck a hiccup

Is Race Time ÷ Race Distance x 1609 the way Mile Rate is calculated?

The reason I ask is I did this for Beach Surge's Race Time of 1.57.1 over 1650m and came up with a MR of 1.54.7 (actually closer to 1.54.8) but yesterday's results states his MR to be 1.54.3 Maybe the .3 is a typo and hence the reason that Beach Surge has not been credited with a new Tk Record

(No it is not a typo as I looked up the race for Outrageous El creating the record in 2014 and her Race Time was only 1.57.4 so this is a new Tk Rec)

I know I love Maths but is there anybody out there that knows how they calculate MR as I would have thought it has to be the above formula and my calculations for Beach Surge to be correct

( I did approximate that at 1.55 pace over say a 1609m race, 9m takes over 0.6 secs so if Beach Surge had been doing the same pace on the pegs that is approximately how much faster his new Tk Rec would have been)

aussiebreno
04-10-2018, 11:14 PM
Thinking about how horses break records without finding the pegs (like Beach Surge death seating it to the record at YV), I was doing some calculations on how much faster they actually go for every sulky width they are off the pegs.
For a short race like at YV with only 2 bends = a circle and the circumference of a circle is 2πR so every 1.4m off (taking a sulky width to be 1.3m) means 2 x 3.14 x 1.4 = aprox 9m further.

I was going to add the 9m to the length of the race eg for Beach Surge it became 1659 instead of 1650m then divide the race time by this distance then multiply it by 1609 to get the Mile Rate

but before I did this I struck a hiccup

Is Race Time ÷ Race Distance x 1609 the way Mile Rate is calculated?

The reason I ask is I did this for Beach Surge's Race Time of 1.57.1 over 1650m and came up with a MR of 1.54.7 (actually closer to 1.54.8) but yesterday's results states his MR to be 1.54.3 Maybe the .3 is a typo and hence the reason that Beach Surge has not been credited with a new Tk Record

(No it is not a typo as I looked up the race for Outrageous El creating the record in 2014 and her Race Time was only 1.57.4 so this is a new Tk Rec)

I know I love Maths but is there anybody out there that knows how they calculate MR as I would have thought it has to be the above formula and my calculations for Beach Surge to be correct

( I did approximate that at 1.55 pace over say a 1609m race, 9m takes over 0.6 secs so if Beach Surge had been doing the same pace on the pegs that is approximately how much faster his new Tk Rec would have been)
Would it be 117.1 seconds / 1650m = 0.07097 s/m. Then * 1609.34m = 114.21 (1.54.2 or for some reason round up to 1.54.3?)

Messenger
04-11-2018, 12:12 AM
Would it be 117.1 seconds / 1650m = 0.07097 s/m. Then * 1609.34m = 114.21 (1.54.2 or for some reason round up to 1.54.3?)

That is exactly what I did and got 1.54.7 I MUST HAVE MISKEYED SOMEWHERE

Thanks for checking my work Brenno. The formula is correct

So I can now say Beach Surge (having travelled 9m further 1 wide) really rated

117.1 ÷ 1659 x 1609.34 = 1.53.6

Messenger
04-11-2018, 12:44 AM
My maths is really out, thanks DS for reminding me that there are 3 turns in a 1650m race on a 1000m track.
Beach Surge was in the death (and racing every bit of 1.4m off the pegs) for 2˝ bends so he easily would have covered an extra 11m

117.1 ÷ 1661 x 1609 = 1.53.4 MR

arlington
04-11-2018, 01:16 AM
1609.0 m is the accepted mile. For example, the gross times for Geelong and Charlton 1609 races is the mile rate.

Thinking about how horses break records without finding the pegs (like Beach Surge death seating it to the record at YV), I was doing some calculations on how much faster they actually go for every sulky width they are off the pegs.

It's amazing what competition does for some horses Kev, and perhaps, in some cases, some horses, some tracks, it's easier on the horse travelling the bigger radius compared to on the rail? Take Melton for an example, which is a bit of the opposite. Mildura tonight, another example. Messini's last half, what would it equate to if he hugged the rail? Sure, he had a trail but would he have run the mathematical time on the rail?

Don't want to go off topic or steal your post Kev but pure speed amazes me more than mile rates and track records. Especially these days, gets a bit ho hum.
An outstanding sectional time, Poster Boy last Q 25.9 Saturday night Melton and not as outstanding, last Q 26.8 from Shez All Rock Friday night Shepparton but somewhere in that quarter I reckon shez gone close to 12s for a furlong without the benefit of Melton's bias. http://www.harness.org.au/video-replay.cfm?state=VIC&raceCode=SPC06041804

Bonnie
04-11-2018, 12:34 PM
How good did Our Little General go last night at Mildura ! Races like that bring people to the track. He is an amazing horse ❤️ I miss the good horses and competitive racing , no truly Metro meetings at Melton or Free for Alls to attract our better horses and provide an exciting nights racing. When Lenny retires where is our next Hero coming from.

Messenger
04-11-2018, 02:11 PM
1609.0 m is the accepted mile. For example, the gross times for Geelong and Charlton 1609 races is the mile rate.

Thinking about how horses break records without finding the pegs (like Beach Surge death seating it to the record at YV), I was doing some calculations on how much faster they actually go for every sulky width they are off the pegs.

It's amazing what competition does for some horses Kev, and perhaps, in some cases, some horses, some tracks, it's easier on the horse travelling the bigger radius compared to on the rail? Take Melton for an example, which is a bit of the opposite. Mildura tonight, another example. Messini's last half, what would it equate to if he hugged the rail? Sure, he had a trail but would he have run the mathematical time on the rail?

Don't want to go off topic or steal your post Kev but pure speed amazes me more than mile rates and track records. Especially these days, gets a bit ho hum.
An outstanding sectional time, Poster Boy last Q 25.9 Saturday night Melton and not as outstanding, last Q 26.8 from Shez All Rock Friday night Shepparton but somewhere in that quarter I reckon shez gone close to 12s for a furlong without the benefit of Melton's bias. http://www.harness.org.au/video-replay.cfm?state=VIC&raceCode=SPC06041804

I reckon Messini made up 5m in the last lap while travelling an extra 18m so he has pretty much gone 821m (taken off the 2m he was behind Sam) in 55.4
so if my maths is right this time he has run the equivalent of a 54 flat last half at the end of 2600m

I too noticed Poster Boy's last quarter of 25.9 last Saturday - meant to put it in this thread - now it is :)

Messenger
04-11-2018, 10:07 PM
I was asked what Soho Tribeca's MR might have been in the Miracle Mile
I will give him the same time as the winner 1.46.9 but calculate that he travelled an extra 11m based on him being 2 sulkies wide for half the first bend and 1 sulky wide for the rest of it and for all the second bend
so he did 1.46.9 for 1620m which when converted to a MR is about 1.46.2 (which the Americans call 1.46.1 as they talk in fifths)

Messenger
04-22-2018, 06:32 PM
Cruz has reduced the Horsham 1700m Tk Rec to 1.53.0 from the previous 1.53.8 leading and winning a C1 by 17m on Cup Day

http://www.harness.org.au/racing/fields/race-fields/?mc=HS220418&fromstate=vic#HSC22041803

Messenger
04-29-2018, 02:33 AM
Im The Boss took a big chunk off the Shep 2690m Tk Rec tonight when he beat stablemate Lenny in the Cup.
Another stablemate Hector owned the old record with a 1.57.5 MR which ITB has reduced to 1.56.1

http://www.harness.org.au/racing/fields/race-fields/?mc=SP280418&fromstate=vic#SPC28041801

Across the border the big event of the night - the APG 2yo Fillies Final saw Soho Nolita rate 1.53.0
Bloody quick but thanks to Club Menangle making all class of records available to the public, I can tell you it is a bit short of Heavens Trend's 1.52.1 Australasian Record for the 2yoF

( Why can't Melton provide their class records online - I have asked so many times, I can only figure it is because they are useless or don't care)

Richard prior
04-29-2018, 11:37 AM
Replay of Shep Cup is messed up Kev but I’d say Breno would have had something on Brallos Pass e/w

arlington
04-30-2018, 12:53 PM
The Shepp Cup was a great spectacle. Video replay still not corrected unfortunately. Lenny just as inspiring as if he'd won. Taking nothing away from I'm The Boss but Lenny in the death and possibly short of a run, taking on Cruz Bromac, fought so tenaciously down the straight and just missed owning the track record. I think the crowd were pretty proud of Lenny, didn't matter that much he didn't win. The proud owners of Im The Boss also humbled in defeating Lenny, was a nice, genuine, gesture.

On the entertainment and attendance side of the cup meeting, I thought a very good crowd especially considering the rerun and cooler weather this time. Don't know what the attendance numbers were but going by the car parking, it looked very good. Was a happy, fun, family, exciting vibe. A real party atmosphere. Pretty well the perfect night :)

Bring on the next rotation of Inter Dom heats!

David Martin
04-30-2018, 06:34 PM
( Why can't Melton provide their class records online - I have asked so many times, I can only figure it is because they are useless or don't care)



Hi Kevin, not sure who you have asked, but I don't concur with your assessment that people 'are useless or don't care'.


I believe the information you are after is available via http://www.harness.org.au/vic-clubs-and-tracks-index.cfm (http://www.harness.org.au/vic-clubs-and-tracks-index.cfm) and/or http://www.harness.org.au/tabcorppark/tabcorppark.cfm?fromstate=vic (http://www.harness.org.au/tabcorppark/tabcorppark.cfm?fromstate=vic)


Kind Regards, David

aussiebreno
04-30-2018, 09:57 PM
Hi Kevin, not sure who you have asked, but I don't concur with your assessment that people 'are useless or don't care'.


I believe the information you are after is available via http://www.harness.org.au/vic-clubs-and-tracks-index.cfm (http://www.harness.org.au/vic-clubs-and-tracks-index.cfm) and/or http://www.harness.org.au/tabcorppark/tabcorppark.cfm?fromstate=vic (http://www.harness.org.au/tabcorppark/tabcorppark.cfm?fromstate=vic)


Kind Regards, David

While I don't feel as strongly as Kev about it he wants 'Class' records.

aussiebreno
04-30-2018, 10:00 PM
Replay of Shep Cup is messed up Kev but I’d say Breno would have had something on Brallos Pass e/w
The Wagga Cup demolition job by Our Triple Play severely depleted the Brallos Pass punting kitty so I didn't have a cent on him, but good to see him run a very good race in this grade!

Messenger
05-01-2018, 08:42 AM
Hi Kevin, not sure who you have asked, but I don't concur with your assessment that people 'are useless or don't care'.


I believe the information you are after is available via http://www.harness.org.au/vic-clubs-and-tracks-index.cfm (http://www.harness.org.au/vic-clubs-and-tracks-index.cfm) and/or http://www.harness.org.au/tabcorppark/tabcorppark.cfm?fromstate=vic (http://www.harness.org.au/tabcorppark/tabcorppark.cfm?fromstate=vic)


Kind Regards, David

I have been asking HRV for 'Class records' not just Tk records for years David - with promises received but no result (hence my harsh assessment). If Menangle can do it why can't we?

It goes hand in hand with promoting our champions. Eg a 2yo runs a brilliant time - it may be the best ever for a 2yo but we are not to know as we only have Open class Tk records to compare it to to

I think I know about the link you provided David as I started this thread nearly 5 years ago and many of its 500+ posts are mine . It is actually on my bookmarks bar. I think the fact that it has had over 150,000 views suggests people would be interested in Class records too

Richard prior
05-01-2018, 10:55 AM
Would help fillies/ mares a hell of a lot with breeding in mind, I’m all for it Kev

Messenger
05-01-2018, 06:57 PM
You will see at the bottom of page 1 of the following thread that Cody Winnell thought we would have class records by now

http://www.harnessracingforum.com/showthread.php?10147-Where-do-I-find-Melton-class-records

If you look at what RISE is responsible for nowadays

http://www.rise-it.com.au/portfolio/

Maybe they are to blame for not being up to the same standard as Menangle

Showgrounds
05-01-2018, 10:36 PM
Just checked the link. If the link represents what RISE is responsible for NOWADAYS, you could draw a simple conclusion.

Not a lot in the past 7 years.

alphastud
05-16-2018, 12:05 AM
UNTITLED (LIVE OR DIE USA) paced 1:55.6 at WAGGA tonight (15.5.18) to win the 10k COUNTRY SERIES HEAT breaking the track record time by 1 full sec.

Congratulations to trainer / driver BRAD HEWITT and the owner MILLY HEWITT.

http://www.harness.org.au/racing/fields/race-fields/?mc=WW150518

Unfortunately, LIVING AGAIN NZ (LIVE OR DIE USA) missed winning 5 straight races today at Menangle after galloping. It however still boasts an impressive record of 9 wins from 18 starts.

Richard prior
05-16-2018, 02:23 AM
That was an absolute armchair ride on Untitled, Live or Die has been a terrific stallion over the years and great value for money, He must be close to or over 1000 individual winners now in Australia and New Zealand

aussiebreno
05-16-2018, 09:59 AM
Just 2 months since Brad Hewitts Our Triple Play broke the 2565m track record.

aussiebreno
05-16-2018, 11:21 AM
Just 2 months since Brad Hewitts Our Triple Play broke the 2565m track record.

It was alao very cold in Wagga last night, the warmer weather is supposed to lead to better times so quite impressive

Richard prior
05-16-2018, 11:37 AM
Hell yes Breno, Chilly up here so I’m thinking Wagga would have been single digits

aussiebreno
05-16-2018, 12:18 PM
Hell yes Breno, Chilly up here so I’m thinking Wagga would have been single digits

Icy cold, clear your inbox !

Richard prior
05-16-2018, 01:37 PM
Lol done bud

Messenger
05-19-2018, 10:44 PM
2yo Betterthancheddar gelding Betternbetter rated 1.54.3 again winning the Home Grown Classic at Melton tonight.
I wouldn't be surprised if it was a record when he did it at Bendigo but I think it would be a bit off the Melton class record (but who would know as they cannot be found anywhere! )

http://www.harness.org.au/racing/fields/race-fields/?mc=MX190518&fromstate=vic#MXM19051807

Messenger
05-24-2018, 07:59 PM
Pin Stripes and Kasbah Kid breaking 1.54 on a cool day at Maryborough was a fair effort (the Tk Rec is 1.52.4)
Especially when you consider they were 4w and 3w around the first bend in a 26.6 Q1

Kasbah Kid is Our Little General's half bro

http://www.harness.org.au/racing/fields/race-fields/?mc=MH240518&fromstate=vic#MHC24051801

Messenger
05-24-2018, 10:31 PM
I should have mentioned that there was one of those tricky protests between these 2 horses after PS interfered with KK in that early speed battle

Messenger
05-27-2018, 07:46 PM
Sirletic set a new Tk Rec for 2040m at Ouyen in winning the Northern Regional Championship final today

http://www.harness.org.au/racing/fields/race-fields/?mc=OU270518&fromstate=vic#OUC27051804

Messini's time for the longer 2423m record is still faster however

Dot
06-01-2018, 12:58 AM
Ignatius absolutely arrogant in breaking the Penrith track record. Worth watching

Messenger
06-01-2018, 02:23 AM
It certainly is worth watching. Drew 2nd line, had to work, only a 3yo and smashes the Tk Rec

http://www.harness.org.au/racing/fields/race-fields/?mc=PE310518&ms=NSW#PEC31051808

Richard prior
06-01-2018, 02:31 AM
Cruise control down the straight, Ignatius is a very serious young horse, He deserves a mention in the Family Ties thread for sure

Messenger
06-01-2018, 02:38 AM
Cruise control down the straight, Ignatius is a very serious young horse, He deserves a mention in the Family Ties thread for sure
Will do Rich

Grinder
06-10-2018, 01:55 AM
Two year old Bletchley Park goes 1:53.6 at Gloucester Park last night. Does any one know the Australian and WA state record for two year old on half mile track?

Richard prior
06-10-2018, 08:28 AM
Record for 1720m at Melton(1000m) is 1.53.5 held by Nostra Beach so I would say that Bletchley Park’s run would be a record on an 800m track for 2yr olds Grinder

Messenger
06-10-2018, 03:06 PM
Where did you find that class record for Melton so quickly Rich?

As an aside, why is it that under the list of tracks they all go by their location other than the Metro tracks? Stawell is not listed as Laidlaw Park and so Melton should not be listed as Tabcorp Park. I am not interested in sponsorship to the nth degree and for newbs it would be easier for them to find all of them under location eg Perth not Gloucester Park and Adelaide not Globe Derby Park (although GDP is a suburb of Adelaide)

Richard prior
06-10-2018, 04:47 PM
Go to Google and punch in Australian track records for Pacing Kev

Greg Hando
06-10-2018, 09:02 PM
Sprockets trained and driven by Nathan Turnbull smashed the 1800 mt track record at Peak Hill today rating 1.54.8 he was a CO class horse who's previous best was 2.00.8
he was beaten a week ago in a trial at Bathurst btn 30 odd mts 1.58 rate for the winner just goes to show how the track is at Peak Hill regarded by many as the best track in regional NSW

Messenger
06-10-2018, 09:06 PM
Thanks Rich.

This is the best that comes up folks

https://www.harness.org.au/hra/annual/public/records.htm

One day we will get class records for all tracks, or at least metro tracks, instead of Menangle only

Richard prior
06-11-2018, 02:52 AM
You’re welcome Kev, We need all the states to sharpen up on their particular Track Records/ Class Records etc

Messenger
06-14-2018, 02:24 PM
Missed this one

http://www.harnesslink.com/Australia/Duplicated-stunning-when-breaking-track-record

3yo Duplicated's 1.55.8 when he won by 35m over 2080m was a Cranbourne Tk Rec

http://www.harness.org.au/racing/fields/race-fields/?mc=CR070618#CRC07061802

Messenger
06-20-2018, 10:13 PM
In a Vicbred Super Series 3yo heat on a freezing Kilmore night where the temp was probably 4° tops, Ride High after being caught wide early (barrier 7) worked to the death then beat juvenile star Poster Boy with the last half in 54.6 and the last quarter in 25.7. He has now won 4 from 4

http://www.harness.org.au/racing/fields/race-fields/?mc=KI200618&fromstate=vic#KIC20061803

KTQ
06-21-2018, 04:33 AM
In a Vicbred Super Series 3yo heat on a freezing Kilmore night where the temp was probably 4° tops, Ride High after being caught wide early (barrier 7) worked to the death then beat juvenile star Poster Boy with the last half in 54.6 and the last quarter in 25.7. He has now won 4 from 4

http://www.harness.org.au/racing/fields/race-fields/?mc=KI200618&fromstate=vic#KIC20061803

Should belong in the Well bred horse thread as well, being a half to RocknRoll Magic

Messenger
06-21-2018, 05:56 PM
He was already there Katie - post 66

alphastud
06-22-2018, 02:25 PM
Poster Boy has had 17 starts, 12 wins for $379,79 and so that was super impressive from RIDE HIGH who worked alot harder.

He's out of ALL THE MAGIC (LIVE OR DIE USA) who's out of CELEBRITY BALL.

Would it be crazy to breed RIDE HIGH's grand-dam CELEBRITY BALL to LIVE OR DIE USA? to get a full sis / bro to ;

ALL THE MAGIC dam of RIDE HIGH and ROCKNROLL MAGIC $456,763 and
THE GOOD TIMES $201,024 dam of up and comers ROCK CLASSIC (6 wins f. 21 starts $42,924) and MAJOR TIMES (3yo 5 wins f. 13 starts $59,180)

Messenger
06-24-2018, 09:29 PM
Into You's 1.54.9 in the last at Warragul was only 0.1 outside the Tk Rec

http://www.harness.org.au/racing/fields/race-fields/?mc=WR240618&ms=vic

Messenger
06-27-2018, 12:33 AM
I missed Rocknroll Icon's 1.53.7 Tk Rec for 2200m at Ballarat last Friday

http://www.harness.org.au/racing/fields/race-fields/?mc=BA220618&ms=vic#BAC22061803

Messenger
07-05-2018, 02:26 AM
There is no NTR in the stewards column but if the time is right
Winkanditsover (and 2nd place Code Bailey - the phenomenal run) SMASHED the Shep 2190m Tk Rec today by going 1.54.9 (old Rec 1.55.7)

http://www.harness.org.au/racing/fields/race-fields/?mc=SP040718&ms=vic#SPC04071801

Messenger
07-10-2018, 02:34 PM
I received an interesting email from an astute follower. Here is an extract

"The times weren't a result of some change to the track profile or maintenance. In the main the quality of fields over that time hadn't altered greatly, in some cases I was seeing the same horse trained by the same trainers?

Eventually I concluded it was a result of the mindset of the younger drivers. You will be familiar with the older trainer/drivers who knew almost to the second a horse's ability and would drive to (i) save their horse for next week and (ii) to ensure it picked up a place check, where possible.

Well the younger drivers don't have the weekday attachment to their horse. They jump into the sulky, drive the horse in most instances making greater use of the horse and after the race hand the reins back to the trainer."

It is no doubt a factor - one that I had never thought of

Dot
07-10-2018, 02:54 PM
I'd say we have seen an improvement on tracks and equipment and horses Kev. But what your emailer writes is very very true the overwhelming difference is a change in driving style that prioritise what happens today over what comes tomorrow.

Dot
07-18-2018, 03:36 PM
UNTITLED (LIVE OR DIE USA) paced 1:55.6 at WAGGA tonight (15.5.18) to win the 10k COUNTRY SERIES HEAT breaking the track record time by 1 full sec.

Congratulations to trainer / driver BRAD HEWITT and the owner MILLY HEWITT.

http://www.harness.org.au/racing/fields/race-fields/?mc=WW150518

Unfortunately, LIVING AGAIN NZ (LIVE OR DIE USA) missed winning 5 straight races today at Menangle after galloping. It however still boasts an impressive record of 9 wins from 18 starts.

Given the old mark stood until a mere two months ago, pretty decent effort by a 2yo Whereyoubinaboppin in the last to go .1 of a second under the old mark, or only . 9 over the new mark at Wagga last night.

alphastud
07-18-2018, 04:06 PM
WHEREYABINBOPPIN was super impressive and great for new sire A ROCKNROLL DANCE USA.

It will be interesting to see how other MODERN ART USA mares cross with ARNRD.

Messenger
07-22-2018, 02:04 PM
Let It Ride's 1.54.8 for 2680m in the Gp1 Blacks A Fake broke the Tk Rec of 1.55

http://www.harness.org.au/racing/fields/race-fields/?mc=AP210718#APM21071801

Messenger
07-24-2018, 02:16 AM
No speed explosion at Cranbourne - looking at the times they run you would think we have gone back a decade and it isn't just today

http://www.harness.org.au/racing/fields/race-fields/?mc=CR230718&fromstate=vic

There 3 pacing track records have all been made to look semi-respectable by improved times just this year but overall it is a surprisingly slow track

http://www.harness.org.au/racing/tracks/cranbourne/

Messenger
08-04-2018, 03:28 AM
Why are half a dozen C3 class horses contesting the 2 M0 Vicbred Championship heats at Melton on Saturday?
If they were to win don't they still jump to a C6 class and lose a couple of prospective C wins?
Or are all their connections thinking they can win both the heat and a somewhat restricted richer final (for want of a better description). A horse that wins a heat and the final is going to be assessed M1 or M2?

http://www.harness.org.au/racing/fields/race-fields/?mc=MX040818&fromstate=vic#MXM04081803

Dot
08-04-2018, 05:06 AM
Been 1 win 1 penalty for some time now Kev. If a C3 wins the M0 it becomes an M1 C4 and R+1 to what it's R assesment was going into the race. There are C3s racing in M0s at Gloucester Park all the time.

Messenger
08-04-2018, 01:04 PM
Thanks Dot, I did not mean to put my question in this thread but here it can stay

Dot
08-04-2018, 02:39 PM
Probably should have been in with short priced favourites Kev. For if that now C4 M1 winner is a mare and connections put a junior driver on it can race as a C2. I think if it goes another ten starts without a win it can drop back with mares concession and junior driver and race as C1. This is what Brenno and Danno have posted about previously.

Messenger
08-10-2018, 09:33 PM
Clancys Fobwatch's 1.54.9 was not too far off the Mildura Tk Rec (1.54.2)

http://www.harness.org.au/racing/fields/race-fields/?mc=ML100818&fromstate=vic#MLC10081801

I think Mildura's days of being a little satellite state of its own may be coming to an end as more trainers from further afield realize they pay regular Aussie dollars up there too

Messenger
08-11-2018, 01:32 AM
Fantastic time in the first at Bendigo tonight by Franco Tristan
Gavin Lang's latest import might be something special

http://www.harness.org.au/racing/fields/race-fields/?mc=BN100818&fromstate=vic#BNC10081802

Richard prior
08-11-2018, 03:42 PM
Coasting Kev, Does look a bit special

Messenger
08-11-2018, 04:56 PM
And he should have plenty of starts in him as he only raced once as a juvenile (at 3yo) and has now had only 27 starts as he comes to the end of his 5yo season

Great speed when you consider that was his first start under 1900m with most of his starts being over 2400++

alphastud
08-14-2018, 09:31 PM
Gods Spirit NZ (3yo) won in 1.51.0 at his 2nd life time start - Menangle. Home in 53.4. Very impressive.

http://www.harness.org.au/racing/fields/race-fields/?mc=PC140818

Messenger
08-14-2018, 11:10 PM
Thanks for tipping us off to Gods Spirit Richard. That is an incredible time for a 3yo having its 2nd start.
He came home in 26.9 and 26.5 while winning by 26.3m

Messenger
08-15-2018, 02:29 AM
Just researching him a little further.
His only other start at Manawatu was 8 months ago and was over 2500m where he was given a bit of scare when $1.20- fav (very short for NZ)
He was exported here 4 months ago

His 3rd dam is a full sis to Lazarus's 2nd dam

Messenger
08-17-2018, 01:43 AM
They ran good time in the 2yo at Swan Hill tonight = 1.55 which saw the $1.10 finish 3rd
Brallos Pass's Tk Rec is 1.53.5

http://www.harness.org.au/racing/fields/race-fields/?mc=FD160818&fromstate=vic#FDC16081807

Messenger
08-30-2018, 01:51 AM
Think About Me's 1.56.3 MR for 2100m at Geelong tonight was just outside the Tk Rec of 1.56.1
A fair effort for a 3yo on a cold night

Mind you the effort of 2yo Demon Delight to rate 1.57.0 for 2100m in the death at its first start was probably better

http://www.harness.org.au/racing/fields/race-fields/?mc=GE290818&fromstate=vic

Richard prior
08-30-2018, 02:19 AM
Think about Me is very well bred Kev

Messenger
08-30-2018, 03:29 AM
Certainly is Rich
If you owned her dam wouldn't you love to send her to Bettors and hope for another Adore Me or Have Faith In Me

Richard prior
08-30-2018, 01:33 PM
For sure Kev or Roll with Joe

Messenger
09-12-2018, 12:14 AM
She was a couple of secs off the Tk Rec but Macey Jade's performance at Terang was very impressive after they went 27.3 for Q1 and she was wide

http://www.harness.org.au/racing/fields/race-fields/?mc=TE110918&fromstate=vic#TEC11091801

Messenger
09-13-2018, 01:27 PM
The track must have been fast at Swan Hill last night
In the C5+ all 8 runners broke 1.55
(The Tk Rec is 1.53.5)

http://www.harness.org.au/racing/fields/race-fields/?mc=FD120918&ms=vic#FDC12091801

Messenger
09-15-2018, 02:33 AM
Diamonds N Cash ran his last half in 54.4 at Ballarat tonight from the Death

http://www.harness.org.au/racing/fields/race-fields/?mc=BA140918&fromstate=vic#BAC14091802

Sure they walked early but that is some half but it shows why he was 5th behind Ride High, Colt Thirty One, Poster Boy and Major Times in the Breeders Crown final

Messenger
09-24-2018, 08:31 PM
A fast track at Hamilton today especially when I imagine it would have been cool and breezy

C2 mare My Harmony Blue smashed the Tk Rec when leading and going 1.52.0 for 1660m

C0 mare Shes Fine rated 1.56.7 for 2160m at only her 4th start - not that far outside the 1.55.3 Tk Record

3yo first starter Mynameisjeff rated 1.54.5 on debut which was a fair effort when you consider the Tk Rec was 1.52.7 until My Harmony Blue smashed it

http://www.harness.org.au/racing/fields/race-fields/?mc=HM240918&fromstate=vic

and in the last C5 gelding Wardan Express rated 1.53.2 which was only 0.5 outside the old Tk
Rec

3 of the above speedsters were from the Matty Craven stable

Messenger
10-04-2018, 01:21 AM
Horses certainly aren't machines as proved by My Harmony Blue's next start ordinary third but she has been up for nearly 6 months

http://www.harness.org.au/racing/fields/race-fields/?mc=TE031018&fromstate=vic#TEC03101802

Messenger
10-14-2018, 07:49 PM
Be Good Juddy has lowered the Stawell 1785m Tk Rec rating 1.55.6 (even though the last half was only 59.9)

Edit: Revised to 1.55.7 but still the first sub 1.56

Messenger
10-19-2018, 11:44 PM
Menin Gate was incredibly tough breaking the Tk Rec in the Swan Hill Cup when first up
Mind you it only equalled Aarden Rooney's time for the distance when it was a Stand Start

http://www.harness.org.au/racing/fields/race-fields/?mc=FD191018&fromstate=vic#FDC19101801

Messenger
10-29-2018, 09:28 PM
Another meet where the Hamilton track is racing fast
Gotta Go Dali Queen rated 1.52.8 for the 1660m just 0.8 outside the Tk Rec set last meet
You know the track is fast when a 3yo brings up its maiden win at its 13th attempt rating 1.53.5

http://www.harness.org.au/racing/fields/race-fields/?mc=HM291018

arlington
11-07-2018, 11:52 AM
A cryptic one for you Kev. From yesterday, FASTER THAN A SPEEDING BULLET, AS SLICK AS A SHARK, HIGHER THAN___

Dot
11-07-2018, 01:38 PM
He seems to like that track Wayne, and Kev not the kind of meeting you’d expect track records if you need another clue

Worth keeping an eye out for the “stable mate” who left him behind at the trials a couple of weeks ago.

arlington
11-07-2018, 02:10 PM
He seems to like that track Wayne, and Kev not the kind of meeting you’d expect track records if you need another clue

Worth keeping an eye out for the “stable mate” who left him behind at the trials a couple of weeks ago.


Have seen both his efforts first hand Dot, he rails like a greyhound there.

I pencilled in another stable mate for ID21 from the same trials. He went very nicely. Not sighted since?

Dot
11-07-2018, 02:18 PM
Had to wait and go a little further afield for another trial but not far away from returning I’d say. Plenty of water to go under the bridge or should I say waves on the beach but you never know.

Was thinking of one in this ID but will need to boost its ranking to make the cut

Messenger
11-07-2018, 03:13 PM
More clues

Dot
11-07-2018, 05:37 PM
Has a couple of full brothers went/go pretty good as well

Messenger
11-07-2018, 05:48 PM
I knew which horse matched the clue - I just couldn't find where he had raced

The 'old non-TAB trick'

http://www.harness.org.au/racing/fields/race-fields/?mc=CO061118#COB06111802

Dot
11-07-2018, 06:18 PM
Thought I’d already given you that one!

Messenger
11-19-2018, 12:46 AM
Rackemup Tigerpie took over 1 sec off the Tk Rec in the Gunbower Cup

http://www.harness.org.au/racing/fields/race-fields/?mc=GU181118#GUC18111801

Messenger
11-19-2018, 11:08 PM
Its Back In The Day's 1.55.2 for 2190m at Maryborough today was only 0.6 secs outside the Tk Rec

http://www.harness.org.au/racing/fields/race-fields/?mc=MH191118#MHC19111801

Messenger
12-03-2018, 12:31 AM
Motu Gatecrasher's 1.58.1 for the 2600m of the Stawell Cup smashed Shadow Sax's 1.59.9 Tk Rec from last year

http://www.harness.org.au/racing/fields/race-fields/?mc=SW021218

Messenger
12-14-2018, 07:32 PM
Emma Stewart's 3yo colt Our Millionaire broke the Yarra Valley Tk Rec rating 1.54.1 at only his 2nd start today

http://www.harness.org.au/racing/fields/race-fields/?mc=YG141218#YGC14121807

Messenger
12-16-2018, 12:24 AM
Tiger Tara broke Lazarus's 2760m Tk Rec !

Dot
12-16-2018, 01:23 AM
Yes impressive from Tiger Tara in front, but Laz death seated for his record

Messenger
12-27-2018, 12:06 AM
The Lightning Sprint at Ballarat tonight was just that
Rackemup Tigerpie's 1.52.1 was just outside the Tk Record of 1.51.8

http://www.harness.org.au/racing/fields/race-fields/?mc=BA261218#BAC26121801

Dot
12-27-2018, 01:01 AM
I believe young Luke said Lady Rocknrolla broke the Elmore track record. Pretty impressive for a 3yo filly racing parked.

Messenger
12-27-2018, 10:12 AM
I believe young Luke said Lady Rocknrolla broke the Elmore track record. Pretty impressive for a 3yo filly racing parked.

It is only a once a year meet but she took 3.1 seconds off the Tk Rec
Everything that went faster than 2.01 for 1780m or faster than 2.02 for 2180m broke the previous Tk Recs
So Upanatom's 1.58.9 also smashed the longer distance record by 3.1 seconds
Love The Aces 2.07.3 in the Trotters Cup even smashed the Tk Rec

http://www.harness.org.au/racing/fields/race-fields/?mc=EE261218

Messenger
12-28-2018, 01:18 AM
We saw a new Tk Rec and another equalled at Stawell today but with relatively new race distances this is always more likely to happen

http://www.harness.org.au/racing/fields/race-fields/?mc=SW271218

Horses would seem to not mind the heat as it got to 39.8°

Messenger
01-01-2019, 11:54 PM
I believe young Luke said Lady Rocknrolla broke the Elmore track record. Pretty impressive for a 3yo filly racing parked.

She kept up the pace again tonight with her 1.55.9 only ˝ sec off the Echuca Tk Rec

http://www.harness.org.au/racing/fields/race-fields/?mc=EC010119#ECC01011906

Dot
01-02-2019, 02:11 AM
With multiple records broken at Elmore after I wrote that I was wondering if it might have been a case of get the trundle wheel out, but another near track record lends considerable credence to the Elmore performance. The Echuca replay seems to have been misplaced.

Messenger
01-06-2019, 12:25 AM
San Carlo's 1.55.4 for 2650m in the Bendigo Cup tonight broke Safari's 11yo Tk Rec

http://www.harness.org.au/racing/fields/race-fields/?mc=BN050119#BNC05011901

Mark Croatto
01-06-2019, 12:42 AM
The Roll With Joe 3yo Muscle Factory sets a new Australasian 3 year old mile record, and the first ever sub 1:50 run at Menangle when stopping the clock at 1:49.6

http://www.harness.org.au/racing/fields/race-fields/?mc=PC050119

Messenger
01-06-2019, 10:07 PM
Amazing time Mark

Buster Brady set a new Tk Rec winning the Cobram Cup for Kima Frenning today

http://www.harness.org.au/racing/fields/race-fields/?mc=CO060119

Mark Croatto
01-06-2019, 11:06 PM
Amazing time Mark

Buster Brady set a new Tk Rec winning the Cobram Cup for Kima Frenning today

http://www.harness.org.au/racing/fields/race-fields/?mc=CO060119

Pretty decent effort by Buster Brady Kevin; and how good is Kima going. Just goes to show how good our horses have become, and how improved tracks are. The next big thing is for a sub 1:50 on a track of a 1,000 metres; I don't think it is that far away

Cheers

Messenger
01-08-2019, 05:47 PM
The Cullector's 1.59.9 for 2250m was a new Tk Rec for Boort's 712m track yesterday

http://www.harness.org.au/racing/fields/race-fields/?mc=BT070119#BTC07011901

Dot
01-09-2019, 11:47 PM
The Roll With Joe 3yo Muscle Factory sets a new Australasian 3 year old mile record, and the first ever sub 1:50 run at Menangle when stopping the clock at 1:49.6

http://www.harness.org.au/racing/fields/race-fields/?mc=PC050119

That makes Roll With Joe the sire of the fastest 3yo and 2yo with Ignatius holding the 2yo mark

Amlin
01-11-2019, 03:01 PM
Not a track record but trotting mare Sovereign Minx (dam was a pacer) broke 30 seconds for each of the last three quarters in leading all the way to win at Warragul on Wednesday.

Messenger
01-13-2019, 07:40 PM
2 Track Records smashed at Hamilton today
Born To Rocknroll took 1.4 secs off the 2160m
and in the Cup, Wardan Express's 1.55.2 for 2660m took 2.1 secs off

Both are serious rising stars

Dot
01-13-2019, 07:55 PM
Remarkable for Wardan Express as I think he’s been considered as more of a miler. Nostra Ideal within point 1 or so of track record for 1660m, would have broken age record for the trip

Messenger
01-21-2019, 12:03 AM
2 new Tk Records at Wedderburn today both taking big chunks off the oldies

Queen Shenandoah's 1.55.7 for 1750m
and in the Cup, Emain Macha's 1.57 for 2555m

http://www.harness.org.au/racing/fields/race-fields/?mc=WD200119

Messenger
01-26-2019, 01:39 AM
Manganello's 1.54.4 for the mile at Geelong tonight was just outside the Tk Rec of 1.54.2

http://www.harness.org.au/racing/fields/race-fields/?mc=GE250119#GEC25011902

Dot
02-06-2019, 02:23 AM
Centanario at Bendigo .7 off Poster Boys track record

Messenger
02-06-2019, 10:17 AM
He finished 49m in front of the 3rd horse

http://www.harness.org.au/racing/fields/race-fields/?mc=BN050219#KIC05021906

Messenger
02-08-2019, 12:45 AM
3yo novices seem to smash it at Yarra Glen
Yesterday first starter Holy Basil's 1.54.2 at his first ever start was only 0.1 outside the Tk Rec

http://www.harness.org.au/racing/fields/race-fields/?mc=YG060219#YGC06021907

That record is held by Emma Stewart's Our Millionaire who claimed the record at his 2nd start
That was the somewhat controversial race where Alford on the Lilley runner hindered the Aiken fav at the start

http://www.harness.org.au/racing/fields/race-fields/?mc=YG141218#YGC14121807

Messenger
02-10-2019, 12:42 PM
2.03.3 MR was enough to score Pantz Up a new Tk Rec in Echuca's trotters cup on Friday night - her 7th win in a row
The time may not seem very quick but it is a 800m track and they were racing over 2530m from the Stand

http://www.harness.org.au/racing/fields/race-fields/?mc=EC080219#ECC08021909

Messenger
02-13-2019, 01:44 PM
Flitting around the net I noticed that Waiona has held the Terang 2180m Tk Rec since Feb 2009!
Waiona ended up winning $136k , notching up his M0 the next season and a couple of years after that won a Hobart Cup
1.56.6 for a 4yo back then was a good time but since then Glenferrie Hood has rated 1.56.3 for 2680m winning the Terang Cup in 2016
Maybe they can lower Waiona's mark at the Cup meet but the class of race covering the distance this Saturday makes it seem like the record will live on (especially with no first half sectionals requirement)

http://www.harness.org.au/racing/fields/race-fields/?mc=TE160219

Messenger
02-14-2019, 01:42 AM
Hurricane Harley sets a new Tk Rec for 2190m at Shep
1.54.1 by the 3yo took a whole 0.8 secs off

http://www.harness.org.au/racing/fields/race-fields/?mc=SP130219#SPC13021907

Fair effort by Lochinvar Art

Messenger
02-17-2019, 01:14 AM
Flitting around the net I noticed that Waiona has held the Terang 2180m Tk Rec since Feb 2009!
Waiona ended up winning $136k , notching up his M0 the next season and a couple of years after that won a Hobart Cup
1.56.6 for a 4yo back then was a good time but since then Glenferrie Hood has rated 1.56.3 for 2680m winning the Terang Cup in 2016
Maybe they can lower Waiona's mark at the Cup meet but the class of race covering the distance this Saturday makes it seem like the record will live on (especially with no first half sectionals requirement)

http://www.harness.org.au/racing/fields/race-fields/?mc=TE160219

I must have had a premonition that it would be a night for records ( and thus I finally made it to Terang )

4 Records broken

Jackierabbit in a lowly C0 breaks that old 2180m record (this is a serious horse)

Mclovin breaks the record for the Trotters Cup (the Gaths next star trotter)

Maretai breaks the Pacing Cup record

Tam Major the 1680m record

http://www.harness.org.au/racing/fields/race-fields/?mc=TE160219

Messenger
03-02-2019, 01:55 AM
Sicario's 1.55.7 for 2080m in the $25k listed Eastern Challenge at Cranbourne tonight was just good enough to take the minimum off the Tk Rec

While in the very next race Monty Python's 2.00.3 in the Trotters Cup is being credited as a new Tk Rec but I think it only equalled Tornado Valley's MR for the 2555m and TV's gross time was 0.1 faster

http://www.harness.org.au/racing/fields/race-fields/?mc=CR010319

http://www.harness.org.au/racing/tracks/cranbourne/

http://www.harness.org.au/racing/fields/race-fields/?mc=CR271018#CRC27101809

Messenger
03-03-2019, 07:27 PM
Hamilton got what they hoped for by putting on the Glen Miles Memorial Mile for $14k today

Jilliby Chevy smashed the Tk Rec for 1660m rating 1.50.6

He drew inside the 2nd row and spent some time in the death so in my book it was the equivalent of a sub 1.50

It was nearly the fastest country track in Victoria before today and now it holds the mantle by a good way

http://www.harness.org.au/racing/fields/race-fields/?mc=HM030319#HMC03031901

arlington
03-04-2019, 10:26 AM
Hamilton got what they hoped for by putting on the Glen Miles Memorial Mile for $14k today

Jilliby Chevy smashed the Tk Rec for 1660m rating 1.50.6

He drew inside the 2nd row and spent some time in the death so in my book it was the equivalent of a sub 1.50

It was nearly the fastest country track in Victoria before today and now it holds the mantle by a good way

http://www.harness.org.au/racing/fields/race-fields/?mc=HM030319#HMC03031901


Wonder why the leader was QUER'd Kev?

Messenger
03-08-2019, 09:43 PM
Buster Brady's 1.55.4 mile rate for the 2690m of the Maryborough Gold Cup today took over a second off the old Track Record

http://www.harness.org.au/racing/fields/race-fields/?mc=MH080319#MHC08031901

ps Further to my post about Hamilton now being the fastest country track in Vic, forget the 'country' qualification - it is the fastest track in Victoria (including Melton)

Messenger
03-10-2019, 08:45 PM
3yo Foolish Pleasure's 2.00.0 for 1750m equalled the Tk Rec at Birchip today

While 9yo Gollahman's 2.00.2 for 2150m set a new Tk Rec

11yo I Am I Cried's 2.04.9 for 1750m in the trot would be a new mark for the trotters as I do not think they have raced over that distance before

There looked to be a good crowd there for Birchip's once a year meet

http://www.harness.org.au/racing/fields/race-fields/?mc=IR100319

Messenger
03-17-2019, 12:27 AM
Speed Explosion - NOT

I didn't think I would see an M0 won in 2.01.5 again

https://www.harness.org.au/racing/fields/race-fields/?mc=MX160319#MXM16031912

aussiebreno
03-22-2019, 07:46 PM
Elle Yeah 1.52.6 today at Wagga and could have gone quicker

Messenger
03-23-2019, 01:53 AM
Elle Yeah 1.52.6 today at Wagga and could have gone quicker

Won by 33m and took 2.3 secs off Tk Rec

http://www.harness.org.au/racing/fields/race-fields/?mc=EY220319#WWC22031907

gutwagon
04-23-2019, 01:58 PM
Soho Hamilton ran 1.54.4 at Maryborough trials over 1690m on Sunday ! Not bad for a 2yo. I was pretty happy with my fillies effort to finish 3rd just 13m away.

Messenger
06-08-2019, 02:03 AM
On a cold night at Bendigo, C3 pacer Whats In The Esky ran another fast time for 1650m when he went 1.53.1
Back in October he ran 1.53.6 and tonight was only his 2nd start back after a 6mth spell
The 1650m Tk Rec of 1.52.0 is held by Konan who set the mark in his 3rd ever start when a 3yo
You would think that this record could be considerably lower if the open class ever had a crack at it

http://www.harness.org.au/racing/fields/race-fields/?mc=BN070619#BNC07061902

Messenger
06-23-2019, 11:12 PM
3yo Sahara Tiger's 1.56.6 for 2210m in the Traralgon Cup at Warragul today was only 0.2 outside the Tk Rec

http://www.harness.org.au/racing/fields/race-fields/?mc=WR230619#WRC23061902

Mighty Atom
06-24-2019, 03:22 PM
Tact Major's win in the Winter Cup rating 1:55:0 over the 2536 metres on the small Gloucester Park track was quite a run, not the track record but fast considering its winter.

Messenger
09-21-2019, 01:55 AM
Early 4yo Aveiro's 3rd win at his 17th start was fast for Shep - rating 1.54.5 (the Tk Rec is 1.53.9)
Placegetters Shark Port and Goes Boom were every bit as good a runs as they did more work

http://www.harness.org.au/racing/fields/race-fields/?mc=SP200919#SPC20091905

Messenger
10-02-2019, 01:21 AM
Lumineer's 1.56.5 for 2180m at Terang tonight equalled the Tk Rec
(mind you Maretai's time for 2680m in the cup this year is faster)

http://www.harness.org.au/racing/fields/race-fields/?mc=TE011019#TEC01101902

Messenger
11-01-2019, 12:18 AM
Deedenuto's 1.55.6 for 2100m at Geelong tonight took 0.5 secs off the Tk Rec

http://www.harness.org.au/racing/fields/race-fields/?mc=GE311019#GEC31101902

Extra good when you consider he drew SR5 and spent the first lap 3W
He got challenged in Q3 and then still found in the home str to hold them off

Messenger
11-25-2019, 12:22 AM
For an early 3yo having his first start
Born To Be Watched's 1.55.0 at the relatively slow course Cranbourne was a most impressive debut

http://www.harness.org.au/racing/fields/race-fields/?mc=CR241119#CRC24111907

Texas
11-27-2019, 12:05 PM
Size has become less and less relevant, other than in a few peoples heads. As the breed has improved and the times and tracks have got faster, the smaller, more compact horses have come to the fore. The bigger horses simply cant bang out the miles week after week.

Baby Bling is only small and Bling it on is not much bigger

I'm NOT QUITE SURE, why, "bigger horses" would be at a disadvantage, "banging out the miles" !!??
Depending on ANATOMY (hence, length of stride, then, the strides per mile theory) would suggest, a bigger long striding horse would/should beat a smaller horse.....However, as history HAS PROVEN, smaller horses have come home first plenty of times, enough to make the breed evolve faster and faster (Chicken and egg Quandary, again), with more and more 'smaller sized' horses have come to the top...
Size of Horse, I feel, means Nothing....assuming everything structurally being relative to each other....Size/Frame/stride/bone.....one without the others is useless.
Before Bettor's Delight blew all the previous "Size Matters" protagonists out of the water, there was Cam himself, most of his sire sons, Good Time ect in USA and in Oz, who can forget Courage under Fire, Sinbad, Quinny, Koala King and so on......If Memory Serves, U.Scott and Light Brigade were only about 15h......but I stress, I am memorizing here...
Little Horses ARE just "Scarier" to drive Flat out around the smaller bends...they do create a "Buzz".....even for someone like me that has no adrenaline production!....

Messenger
12-13-2019, 12:19 AM
Joe Nien's 1.55.0 for 1755m at Echuca tonight would have to be a Tk Rec

http://www.harness.org.au/racing/fields/race-fields/?mc=EC121219#ECC12121901

Messenger
12-13-2019, 07:29 PM
Arggghhh's 1.53.7 in the last at Yarra Glen today broke the Tk Rec

http://www.harness.org.au/racing/fields/race-fields/?mc=YG131219#YGC13121902

Messenger
12-27-2019, 12:39 PM
All 3 track records broken at Elmore yesterday in Races 2,3 & 6

http://www.harness.org.au/racing/fields/race-fields/?mc=EE261219

And at Ballarat The Storm Inside ran a sensational 1.50.7 to break the Tk Rec

http://www.harness.org.au/racing/fields/race-fields/?mc=BA261219#BAC26121901

Messenger
12-27-2019, 09:52 PM
I have been told that new Elmore best times will not be recognized as records due to changes to pegs and there has not been an official re-measure
You would think the measure could be done retrospectively and the times recognized if the measure provides confirmation

A great call in the Cup by Luke Humphreys and I think Shannon O'Sullivan would have been worried as to whether her salute was a little early

http://www.harness.org.au/racing/fields/race-fields/?mc=EE261219#EEB26121902

While at Stawell today Marjorie Jean over 1785m and Keayang Blinky over 2180m were only 0.4 and 0.3 off the Tk Records

http://www.harness.org.au/racing/fields/race-fields/?mc=SW271219

Messenger
01-02-2020, 08:50 PM
I sometimes think the improvement in times in Australia in the last decade has been staggering

I look at Kilmore today, a 3yo having his first start sits in the death and rates 1.55.6
Kilmore is not a fast track. Bitobliss holds the Tk Rec at 1.53.4

http://www.harness.org.au/racing/fields/race-fields/?mc=KI020120#KIC02012005

Messenger
01-05-2020, 12:25 AM
As well as Code Bailey's staggering Tk Rec in the Bendigo Cup
I see Balraj was only 0.2 sec off the Goulburn record when he rated 1.52.7 last night

aussiebreno
01-05-2020, 12:48 AM
As well as Code Bailey's staggering Tk Rec in the Bendigo Cup
I see Balraj was only 0.2 sec off the Goulburn record when he rated 1.52.7 last night

I feel like any mention of Balraj should also include this footnote

http://www.harness.org.au/media-room/news-article/?news_id=32745

Messenger
01-05-2020, 06:00 PM
I feel like any mention of Balraj should also include this footnote

http://www.harness.org.au/media-room/news-article/?news_id=32745

Or a link to this thread

http://www.harnessracingforum.com/showthread.php?13382-Outed-16yrs-for-Peptides-but-2yrs-later-his-3yo-smashes-Tk-Rec-then-goes-1.49.1-Mngl

Mighty Atom
01-11-2020, 01:40 PM
Got to give a mention to the old warhorse Courage Tells 12 years old and wins in 1:54:3 at GP last night.

Messenger
01-11-2020, 03:36 PM
245 starts. Amazing animals aren't they Rod
I was just looking at yesterday's Scottsdale Cup (it has to be the shortest home straight in the world) and marvelling at how winner Ideal World had been around in his 58 starts and ends up getting his biggest payday at Scottsdale
Not exactly speed explosion stuff however as the MR was 2.10.7

http://www.harness.org.au/racing/horse-search/?horseId=797952

Messenger
01-21-2020, 11:19 PM
1.57.1 might not seem like a 'speed explosion' nowadays
But this MR by 3yo filly Sew What in the first at Ararat tonight broke the 1790m Tk Rec by 0.1 secs

http://www.harness.org.au/racing/fields/race-fields/?mc=AR210120#ARC21012007

Mighty Atom
01-25-2020, 02:26 PM
The Barry Howlett stable is flying at the moment Talktomeurmattjesty in 1:54:9 over 2536 metres.

aussiebreno
01-25-2020, 02:43 PM
The Barry Howlett stable is flying at the moment Talktomeurmattjesty in 1:54:9 over 2536 metres.

Bloody game drive.

That race and the racing at Busselton very entertaining last night. Don't think I'd watched too many from Busselton before.

Mighty Atom
01-25-2020, 05:16 PM
Bloody game drive.

That race and the racing at Busselton very entertaining last night. Don't think I'd watched too many from Busselton before.

Yes, Brendan that Busselton track I think they only have 3 or 4 meetings a year thank goodness. I only raced a few horses there (not figuratively) many years ago that was enough. It's a wonder the horses don't get giddy going around
although I think they have actually lengthened the straight since the old days.

Danno
01-25-2020, 06:35 PM
245 starts. Amazing animals aren't they Rod
I was just looking at yesterday's Scottsdale Cup (it has to be the shortest home straight in the world) and marvelling at how winner Ideal World had been around in his 58 starts and ends up getting his biggest payday at Scottsdale
Not exactly speed explosion stuff however as the MR was 2.10.7

http://www.harness.org.au/racing/horse-search/?horseId=797952

Scottsdale home straight just 4.5 metres longer than Broken Hill,

http://www.harness.org.au/racing/tracks/broken-hill/

Your comment made me check them Kev, I was surprised as I reckon Broken Hill is lucky to be 84.5m.

Messenger
01-25-2020, 06:59 PM
Busselton 656m and 100m straight
Scottsdale 740m and 80m straight
Broken Hill 602m and 84.6m straight
Wayville 513m and ?? straight

Wayville is strangely not listed in the current harness.org track list but I found this old link

http://www.harness.org.au/tracks/track.cfm/5AE7DFED96226EEFC15D93F3A80B0F052142D85FB39EA0BB02 1657D4C62913D0010AE28B03/index.htm

Messenger
01-25-2020, 08:16 PM
Should distances <1609m count towards a horse's fastest time record????

IMO it seems a bit misleading to have Mercury 1200m mile rates recorded as a horse's fastest mile rate, mile rates should be for races of a mile or greater

Messenger
01-25-2020, 11:36 PM
Lochinvar Art 1.48.6 that cannot be right can it ????

That takes over 2 secs off the Tk Rec 1720 MR

That is a faster MR than the 1200m Mercury

Hamilton was the fastest track in the state by 0.1 secs - now in one blow it is 2.0 secs off the pace!

ps Honorable mention to King of Swing taking 5.6 secs off his best MR in his first mile race at Menangle going 1.48.8

Danno
01-26-2020, 12:22 AM
Lochinvar Art 1.48.6 that cannot be right can it ????

That takes over 2 secs off the Tk Rec 1720 MR

That is a faster MR than the 1200m Mercury

Hamilton was the fastest track in the state by 0.1 secs - now in one blow it is 2.0 secs off the pace!

ps Honorable mention to King of Swing taking 5.6 secs off his best MR in his first mile race at Menangle going 1.48.8

I tend to think it's correct Kev, they bisltered through that first half and the Lochinvar Art ( who has always shown he is capable of something special under the right conditions) has the audacity to do what he did.....and they made some top horses look second rate over the last 600 metres.

Showgrounds
01-26-2020, 11:35 AM
Incredible performance and great drive. Unbelievable sectionals highlight the 24 metre margin between 2nd and 3rd in what appeared a high quality field. The first two appear far superior to others of their age. All credit to Lochinvar Art but Self Assured's effort to be still pulling ground at the finish says plenty about him.

Messenger
01-26-2020, 11:49 AM
It would seem so Dan but I have been told it was hand-timed
Apparently they have to do something to have the automatic timing work for the previous 1200m race and it was not up and running in time for the next.
You will notice in the call that Danny does not provide any times except for the gross time at the end

You have to say that not only are the first 2 exceptional, the next 4 were good runs

gutwagon
01-26-2020, 02:13 PM
If it was hand timed I really doubt it is an official time . There really is no excuse for not having the official clock working. Just another reason not to have 1200m races.

Messenger
01-26-2020, 02:31 PM
The Steward's Comments column says NTR
I thought I heard Dan give the gross time 1.56 when they were coming back but it is not on the replay - he says "times to come"

My first go with the stopwatch off the replay gave me 1.55.98 so I am happy with the record

aussiebreno
01-26-2020, 04:00 PM
Clock wasn't working, was hand timed.

Adaptor
01-26-2020, 04:03 PM
The Steward's Comments column says NTR
I thought I heard Dan give the gross time 1.56 when they were coming back but it is not on the replay - he says "times to come"

My first go with the stopwatch off the replay gave me 1.55.98 so I am happy with the record

It was a great night.
Great racing....with action in all races.
The off-track attractions were a real highlight. HRV and their marketing and ownership staff had put a huge amount of planning to attract and entertain a younger crowd...and from what I saw..it worked.
The publicity and prizes around the Mercury was great..new race, new thinking.
Kudos to all involved.

And can Anthony Butt drive !!!!!!!!

Messenger
01-26-2020, 05:48 PM
Noel, for the Mercury 80 did they have a big clock counting out 80 secs?

Adaptor
01-27-2020, 09:54 PM
Noel, for the Mercury 80 did they have a big clock counting out 80 secs?

They didn't Kev, but what a good idea.

I'll suggest that on Friday night when Dayle Brown and the management team are in Bendigo for one of the industry feedback sessions.

Adaptor
02-14-2020, 08:43 AM
Konan's 2017 mile record of 1:52.0 bettered last night by the Maree Campbell trained/Chris Alford driven BELITTLED ( Western Terror/Ah Dinnae Ken) in 1:51.9.

Belittld was a clear last at one point in the race:
https://www.harness.org.au/racing/fields/race-fields/?mc=BN130220#BNC13022002

Breeders Maree and Paul Campbell over the moon on breeding their fastest ever pacer, and first track record holder.

Messenger
02-14-2020, 02:12 PM
The first 3 were all good runs and good drives
The race was a quick tempo from the get go in an attempt to bring Mirragon undone (I assume)

Messenger
02-14-2020, 02:37 PM
Belittled's 2nd dam Braeside Dream has been a weak arm in this family up until now (so it could be one for the stallions) but just open up all the little + boxes for the descendants of 3rd dam Tuapeka Star to see how strong the family is

http://classicfamilies.net/CF/Descendants.aspx?HorseID=10020426

Messenger
02-17-2020, 05:38 PM
Mentioned Pacifico Dream's Wedderburn Tk Rec yesterday elsewhere

http://www.harness.org.au/racing/fields/race-fields/?mc=WD160220#WDC16022001

Today Tangoingwithsierra smashed the Yarra Valley Tk Rec going 1.53.1

http://www.harness.org.au/racing/fields/race-fields/?mc=YG170220#YGC17022003

This was an unbelievable win as he tried for the lead with a 25.7 first Q and then death seated most of the way

Track obviously fast there this afternoon as well bred first starter Denis William death seated for a 1.56.8 win in the 3yo
while Divine Diva was only 0.3 secs off the 2150m Tk Rec in the last

gutwagon
02-18-2020, 12:05 PM
Does anyone know how often tracks are remeasured , if at all ? Are the timing devices in the correct locations? Am I the only one that is sceptical about some of the times we are seeing ?

I'd like to see it done before every meeting . Pegs are a lot easier to move than the old rails were and quick times can add a lot of value to the sale price of a horse.

aussiebreno
02-18-2020, 12:30 PM
Does anyone know how often tracks are remeasured , if at all ? Are the timing devices in the correct locations? Am I the only one that is sceptical about some of the times we are seeing ?

I'd like to see it done before every meeting . Pegs are a lot easier to move than the old rails were and quick times can add a lot of value to the sale price of a horse.
Yeah I am sometimes dubious. I'd be shocked if Leetons weren't out over the New Years carnival. Some 34 1st quarters and 29 2nd quarters when they didn't change pace. You can tell a 34 qtr easily by sight and they weren't 34 qtrs.

Beltane
02-22-2020, 01:20 AM
A new track record 1.50.7 for the 1609 metres was set in tonight's Newcastle Mile by Majordan. Previous holder was Balraj who was timed at 1.50.9 at Newcastle back on 15 July 2019.

Messenger
02-23-2020, 07:31 PM
Private Eye broke the Gunbower Tk Rec at only his 2nd start rating 1.54.6 in the George Croxford Tribute for 3yo's

http://www.harness.org.au/racing/fields/race-fields/?mc=GU230220#GUC23022007

Mighty Atom
03-08-2020, 04:13 PM
TALKTOMEURMATTJESTY NZ dazzling turn of speed 1:52:9 I just love watching this horse go to war just runs them ragged when in front so more exciting than the hare and tortoise races going around of late at Gloucester Park where it's a mad dash for 4-500 metres then the brakes are on.

Messenger
03-20-2020, 12:18 AM
Reactor Now equaled Bitobliss's 1690m Tk Rec at Kilmore tonight rating 1.53.4 when winning by 23m from the Death WOW

http://www.harness.org.au/racing/fields/race-fields/?mc=KI190320#KIC19032002

aussiebreno
03-20-2020, 09:14 AM
Reactor Now equaled Bitobliss's 1690m Tk Rec at Kilmore tonight rating 1.53.4 when winning by 23m from the Death WOW

http://www.harness.org.au/racing/fields/race-fields/?mc=KI190320#KIC19032002

Might have to check it's breeding.

Messenger
03-20-2020, 11:19 AM
I know you are referring to the sire
But the dam is American and the 4th dam was a Breeders Crown winner and a million dollar winner back in the 80's when a million meant a lot more
This is the ClassicFamilies link for the dam

http://classicfamilies.net/HorseDetails.aspx?HorseID=10205371

Messenger
03-20-2020, 01:42 PM
Bitobliss still shares the record set on 26 October 2014
What with the surge in speed, I think it is the 2nd oldest record at any of Victoria's regularly used tracks over a distance still raced
I think Saab Quality 16 January 2014 at Yarra Valley is the oldest and Tabanan 30 November 2015 is the third oldest

http://www.harness.org.au/racing/tracks/

Messenger
04-10-2020, 12:57 AM
Brackenreid's 1.52.7 in the 67-85 class at Bendigo tonight was only 0.8 secs outside the 1650m Tk Rec
Mind you the Record holder, Belittled, is only a 62 class 4yo who set the record in a 56-62 class a couple of months ago

http://www.harness.org.au/racing/fields/race-fields/?mc=BN090420#BNC09042001

Messenger
04-13-2020, 12:45 AM
Ideal Star New Tk Rec for 1690m at Shep tonight 1.53.8

http://www.harness.org.au/racing/fields/race-fields/?mc=SP120420#SPC12042001

Messenger
04-18-2020, 01:25 AM
Im Sir Blake equalled Tam Major's Tk Rec of 1.53.6 at Terang tonight

http://www.harness.org.au/racing/fields/race-fields/?mc=TE170420#TEC17042001

A super effort after contesting the lead, being stuck in the death and pulling

Messenger
04-19-2020, 12:48 AM
Cash N Flow's third Menangle sub 1.50 win in a row in 5 weeks

aussiebreno
04-19-2020, 02:07 AM
Cash N Flow's third Menangle sub 1.50 win in a row in 5 weeks

And $1.60 against identical horses he beat by 20m a fortnight ago. Saved me tonight

Messenger
05-02-2020, 01:39 AM
On a cold May 1 night, Lochinvar Art went to the Death Seat and broke the Shep Tk Rec rating 1.53.3 taking 0.5 secs off the previous mark on a night when no other race was able to break 2 minutes

http://www.harness.org.au/racing/fields/race-fields/?mc=SP010520#SPC01052001

aussiebreno
05-02-2020, 11:26 PM
Cash N Flow's third Menangle sub 1.50 win in a row in 5 weeks
Just keeps toying with them!

Messenger
05-03-2020, 01:11 AM
Just keeps toying with them!

and he is racing for twice the money that Poster Boy and Lochinvar Art are

Messenger
05-14-2020, 08:28 PM
Disregard the times listed for R6 at Bendigo today
I got the stopwatch out and they went 5 secs slower (the Lead time) than that shown so the MR was nowhere near the 1.52.2 in the results

http://www.harness.org.au/racing/fields/race-fields/?mc=BN140520#BNC14052001

Messenger
06-06-2020, 10:52 PM
New Tk Rec of 1.51.7 to 4yo Leonidas on a cold night at Bendigo
He did it easily despite coming from last and wide for the last lap but it was set up by Streitkid going 25.8 for Q1
Unfortunately the caller said he is off to America

http://www.harness.org.au/racing/fields/race-fields/?mc=BN060620#BNC06062001

Bred by Roger Bazely
Oh to get a broodmare like Intrude (3rd dam of Leonidas)
Open all the little + boxes below

http://classicfamilies.net/CF/Descendants.aspx?HorseID=10028839

Messenger
06-07-2020, 12:31 PM
Trotter Robbie Royale's 1.59.8 for the 2150m SS at Bendigo was a new Tk Rec too. I'm not sure how often they race over this distance as King Kipper had held the record since 2009

http://www.harness.org.au/racing/fields/race-fields/?mc=BN060620#BNC06062007

Messenger
06-07-2020, 10:09 PM
Trotter Rosanna Lindy's 2.03.2 for the 2110m SS at Cranbourne tonight is a new Tk Rec. Once again it may not be a distance they race over too often as the record was nearly 6yrs old

http://www.harness.org.au/racing/fields/race-fields/?mc=CR070620#CRC07062007

Messenger
06-18-2020, 10:08 PM
New Tk Rec of 1.51.7 to 4yo Leonidas on a cold night at Bendigo
He did it easily despite coming from last and wide for the last lap but it was set up by Streitkid going 25.8 for Q1
Unfortunately the caller said he is off to America

http://www.harness.org.au/racing/fields/race-fields/?mc=BN060620#BNC06062001

Bred by Roger Bazely
Oh to get a broodmare like Intrude (3rd dam of Leonidas)
Open all the little + boxes below

http://classicfamilies.net/CF/Descendants.aspx?HorseID=10028839

Leonidas is still here and can add a tidy sum to his bankroll in one of the 'inflated' stakes races at Shep tomorrow night

http://www.harness.org.au/racing/fields/race-fields/?mc=SP190620#SPC19062001

Messenger
06-19-2020, 10:39 PM
Ideal Star smashed the Shep 1690m Tk Rec (1.53.3) by rating 1.52.5 in beating stablemate Leonidas ($1.40 fav)

http://www.harness.org.au/racing/fields/race-fields/?mc=SP190620#SPC19062001

Danno
06-21-2020, 07:23 PM
Ride High at Melton last night, last half in 52.7. (26.9 and 25.8.) I have never heard of any horse running a half mile that quick. I'm sure there are sectionals faster somewhere on the planet but.

Messenger
06-23-2020, 09:56 PM
1.54.3 and winning by 35m is impressive for a 5yo mare on debut

http://www.harness.org.au/racing/fields/race-fields/?mc=BN230620#BNC23062004

Boxofchocolates

Showgrounds
06-24-2020, 12:35 AM
1.54.3 and winning by 35m is impressive for a 5yo mare on debut

http://www.harness.org.au/racing/fields/race-fields/?mc=BN230620#BNC23062004

Boxofchocolates

And 3 wide to the 900, then in the death briefly before saying hooroo!

Looked up her breeding, traces back to the great filly Copper Satin. The ability we saw tonight has largely been hidden for four decades, but it eventually pops up if you are patient enough.

Messenger
08-01-2020, 10:08 PM
2.7 secs off the Bendigo Tk Rec
Ride High goes 1.49

Messenger
08-16-2020, 10:53 PM
4yo Struve is an impressive looking type and made it 8 wins from 16 starts at Kilmore tonight
He won by 33m and his time of 1.57.5 was very good when you consider the Tk Rec is 1.56
The track might be fast tonight as another lightly raced 4yo Auckland Red was only 1.5 secs outside the Tk Rec over the short trip when he brought up his 4th win (4 in a row) from 16 starts in the first (the effort of Celestial Gossip to run 2nd from the death was very impressive too)

http://www.harness.org.au/racing/fields/race-fields/?mc=KI160820

Messenger
09-06-2020, 12:50 AM
Cash N Flow makes it 3 sub 1.50's in a row (the 2nd time has done this)
and ELEVEN in a row < 1.50.7

http://www.harness.org.au/racing/fields/race-fields/?mc=PC050920#PCM05092001

Messenger
09-13-2020, 12:19 AM
It has to be a good track at Terang as they had plenty of rain and we still had a Track Record
No, it wasn't Ride High in R2 but rather 3yo Major Jodi in the last
She rated 1.56.1 for the 2180 proving a surprise against 3 fancied runners. That is 0.4 off the record

http://www.harness.org.au/racing/fields/race-fields/?mc=TE120920#TEC12092006

Messenger
09-18-2020, 12:42 AM
It really has become crazy when we have 2yo fillies on debut getting within 1.6 secs of the open age record winning by 19m untouched at a track like Shep
Rogue Wave

http://www.harness.org.au/racing/fields/race-fields/?mc=HS170920#HSC17092007

From the same stable on the same day another 2yo on debut got within 2.5 secs of the Tk Rec at Horsham (but lost the race on protest)

http://www.harness.org.au/racing/fields/race-fields/?mc=HS170920#HSC17092007

Messenger
09-27-2020, 08:17 PM
1.54.8 at Cranbourne is a great MR especially by a 3yo filly having her first start (Tk Rec is 1.53.5)

Rockaround The Clock is beautifully bred with her dam Spred It Around being a half sis to Terror To Love

http://www.harness.org.au/racing/fields/race-fields/?mc=CR270920#CRC27092006

Messenger
10-09-2020, 04:16 PM
Still 2yo Idyllic equalled the Geelong Tk Rec for 2100m (MR 1.55.6) at Geelong today
Idyllic is a full bro to Petacular - 2yo & 3yo Australian Filly of the Year
I know the owner of the 2nd horse is pretty pleased with his progress

http://www.harness.org.au/racing/fields/race-fields/?mc=GE091020#GEC09102006

Messenger
10-14-2020, 09:15 PM
First of all Bopper Jet in the Claimer (R1) and then more notably 3yo Boots Electric in the last were not far outside the Kilmore 1690m Tk Rec of 1.53.4
(The other 3yo in the field Dancing With Flo was impressive too as it held on for second)

http://www.harness.org.au/racing/fields/race-fields/?mc=KI141020

Messenger
10-23-2020, 01:02 AM
1.53.2 at Ballarat is a serious time
3yo filly Art of Sheng Li has now won her last 3 starts (a respectable 4th at her first start back in December is her only loss)
She comes from the very strong dam line of Patrician which includes Thefixer

There are plenty of delights to be found behind the little + boxes in the following link

http://classicfamilies.net/CF/Descendants.aspx?HorseID=10015052

Messenger
10-27-2020, 07:15 PM
On my nostalgia trip still, I read that Tara Meadow was the first horse to break 2.00 minutes in Victoria (1970 TT) and what surprised me was the fact that she did not start racing until she was 5yo - a bit different from these times of speedy 2yo's

Showgrounds
10-27-2020, 09:19 PM
On my nostalgia trip still, I read that Tara Meadow was the first horse to break 2.00 minutes in Victoria (1970 TT) and what surprised me was the fact that she did not start racing until she was 5yo - a bit different from these times of speedy 2yo's

A great mare, bold chestnut and one that got me hooked on the trots. Took her record in a time trial at Ballarat. George Gath officially trained her and drove her. She won a heat of the 1970 ID at the Melbourne Showgrounds and made the final. Her son Tara King (by Aachen) was Australia's highest priced yearling when sold at the Wright Stephenson Melbourne yearling sale for $17,000. While not a topliner he was a pretty handy horse for Rex Hocking.

Good memories.

Messenger
10-30-2020, 04:42 PM
One of Emma Stewart's second string 2yo's No Motive (no wins from 6 starts) runs 1.54.9 at Geelong, only 0.7 outside the Tk Rec - it is however quite an old record being set 3yrs ago
She is well bred with mum being a half sis to Courage To Rule ($523k, a Vic Derby and a couple of NZ 2yo Gp1 2nds to Smiling Shard)

http://www.harness.org.au/racing/fields/race-fields/?mc=GE301020#GEC30102009

Messenger
11-12-2020, 08:01 PM
3yo filly Aldabaran Tess smashed Tornado Valley's Maryborough Tk Rec when she rated 1.57 for 2190m

https://www.thetrots.com.au/news/articles/breeders-crown-tess-smashes-track-record-with-audacious-heat-win/

Messenger
11-12-2020, 11:36 PM
You have to sympathize with Ron Angel, owner of 2yo Major Angel. His colt has probably run the 2nd fastest time for the card at Shep tonight, just as he did at Yarra Valley last week AND yet all his 2yo has to show for it, is two 2nds
Gee the 2yo's have been quick this season
(I am of course aware that in any other year we would be calling them 3yo's now)

http://www.harness.org.au/racing/fields/race-fields/?mc=SP121120#SPC12112007

Mighty Atom
12-19-2020, 02:19 PM
Gloucester Park was on fire last night with Vampiro breaking the track record for 2536 metres in 1:54:1.

aussiebreno
12-19-2020, 02:25 PM
Gloucester Park was on fire last night with Vampiro breaking the track record for 2536 metres in 1:54:1.

The Bull dominates them horses week in week out and if they can run those times how good is the Bull? Very attractive price in offer in Hunter Cup. He is Number 1 seed for mine.

Messenger
01-11-2021, 02:03 PM
WOW!

Just turned 3yo, Bondi Lockdown comes out in a 4 horse race at Charlton this morning (yes Morning as they started early to beat the heat)
AND he wins by 67m and sets a new TK REC for 2100m while rating 1.55

http://www.harness.org.au/racing/fields/race-fields/?mc=CH110121#CHC11012106

His 2nd dam Innocent Eyes boast a Chariots Of Fire among her 18 wins

Messenger
02-01-2021, 07:29 PM
Catching up on Magnificent Storm's win at GP on Friday. Pretty dam easy for a run that was only 0.1 outside the Tk Rec

http://www.harness.org.au/racing/fields/race-fields/?mc=GP290121#GPM29012103

ps For a non-punter I was fortunate enough to have a couple of dollars on Bondi Lockdown (previous post) at good odds on Saturday

Messenger
02-04-2021, 12:09 AM
The Geelong track had to be fast tonight
The Tk Rec for 1609m is 1.54.2
so to have three races run at < 1.56 is quick
Especially Goodtime Grace who went 1.54.6
(The runs of the placegetters was just as good)

http://www.harness.org.au/racing/fields/race-fields/?mc=GE030221#GEC03022101

Messenger
02-10-2021, 12:38 AM
A new track record at Swan Hill tonight
Macelli takes it coming from the 5 spot up the sprint lane in 1.53.4
But only a nose away was Pocket Thedeal who was wide before death-seating

http://www.harness.org.au/racing/fields/race-fields/?mc=FD090221#FDC09022101

Messenger
02-11-2021, 01:05 AM
Monaro Mara's 1.55.8 for 1690m took a chunk off the old Tk Rec for trotters at Shep

http://www.harness.org.au/racing/fields/race-fields/?mc=SP100221#SPC10022107

Messenger
02-14-2021, 11:06 PM
Lochinvar Art 1.48.6 that cannot be right can it ????

That takes over 2 secs off the Tk Rec 1720 MR

That is a faster MR than the 1200m Mercury

Hamilton was the fastest track in the state by 0.1 secs - now in one blow it is 2.0 secs off the pace!

ps Honorable mention to King of Swing taking 5.6 secs off his best MR in his first mile race at Menangle going 1.48.8

I am not sure what the Tk Rec was before this post in Jan last year but as I said that LA took over 2 secs off the record, I have some recollection that it was 1.50.7 (the Hamilton record I refer to is 1.50.6)
Why I bring this up is to wonder whether any other horse (other than Self Assured that finished about 5m behind LA in the Bonanza) has broken 1.50 at Melton. I have to say my memory is average

Eureka's 1.52.6 last night is a serious time but 5/6 runners would have been < 1.53

Messenger
02-21-2021, 01:28 AM
A good night for Lauriston in both states
Honolua Bay took a whole second off the Terang Tk Rec

http://www.harness.org.au/racing/fields/race-fields/?mc=TE200221#TEM20022103

Messenger
02-27-2021, 12:44 AM
Geelong reignites the Rocket

https://www.thetrots.com.au/news/articles/speedsters-to-take-off-in-reignited-geelong-rocket/

And are rewarded with a new Tk Rec of 1.53.6 by Mach Dan

http://www.harness.org.au/racing/fields/race-fields/?mc=GE260221#GEC26022101

Messenger
03-18-2021, 12:18 AM
Not your normal post for this thread
From the Menangle Trials today
Crunch Time went 1.50.7 for the mile

http://www.harness.org.au/racing/fields/race-fields/?mc=ME170321T#MEQ170321T02

Messenger
03-27-2021, 09:40 PM
Anntonia breaks the Bathurst Tk Rec going 1.52.1 to demolish them in the Gold Bracelet

http://www.harness.org.au/racing/fields/race-fields/?mc=BH270321#BHC27032103

Messenger
04-04-2021, 10:31 PM
Both Techys Angel and Wolf Stride broke the Wagga Tk Rec in the Gp1's today but the former holds the mark as she went faster

http://www.harness.org.au/racing/fields/race-fields/?mc=EY040421

And at Warragul Perfect Stride took a fair chunk off their Tk Rec in the Cup

http://www.harness.org.au/racing/fields/race-fields/?mc=WR040421#WRC04042101

Messenger
04-18-2021, 01:16 AM
Honolua Bay SMASHED the Geelong mile record going 1.51.9

http://www.harness.org.au/racing/fields/race-fields/?mc=GE170421#GEM17042102

Steel Screens held it briefly after going 1.53.5 in R5

ps Congratulations Anne. I also remember you mentioning how much you liked his full sister whom you just sold at the Nutrien Sale