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    Super Moderator Stallion Messenger will become famous soon enough Messenger's Avatar
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    Shep Gold Cup this Saturday

    An excellent field with the winner exempt from the Hunter Cup ballot

    Philadelphia Man 10m
    Bitobliss 20m
    For A Reason 30m

    Off the fr:
    Lennytheshark
    Franco Ledger
    Bit Of A Legend
    and more

    You would say only a couple of Aikens were the only one's without a place hope

    It is a discretionary so For A Reason and Bitobliss seem a little hard done by on present form

    http://www.harness.org.au/fields.cfm...romstate=vic#5
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    I think Philadelphia man has beaten the handicapper with only 10

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    Quote Originally Posted by Big Mac View Post
    I think Philadelphia man has beaten the handicapper with only 10
    Really?
    You think he should have 15 or 20m?

    Lenny is C10 M4 $382,000 with 2 wins albeit last season over Guaranteed who is current Fav on TAB for Vic Cup and Hunter Cup.
    Phil is C14 M4 $285,000 whose last 4 runs after 27 months in the paddock has won him an MO an M1 or better FFA, a C7 or better FFA, and a Group 2 Country Cup.

    Based on Phils current aura and obvious ability i think 10m is granted, however based on the above in my opinion i think Lenny has beaten the handicapper, and should be back there with him.

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    Jackka Clive
    Wartime Sweetheart

    5m
    Steam Washed
    Franco Ledger
    Flaming Flutter
    Star Chamber
    Bit of a Legend

    10m
    Smudge Bromac

    15m
    Bitobliss
    Lennytheshark

    20m
    For A Reason
    Philadelphia Man

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    Quote Originally Posted by aussiebreno View Post
    FR
    Jackka Clive
    Wartime Sweetheart

    5m
    Steam Washed
    Franco Ledger
    Flaming Flutter
    Star Chamber
    Bit of a Legend

    10m
    Smudge Bromac

    15m
    Bitobliss
    Lennytheshark

    20m
    For A Reason
    Philadelphia Man
    You might have the potential to be a handicapper Brendan (if we overlook the 5m error)
    The order seems fine
    just combine the fr, 5m and 10m
    and the rest as is
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    If they brought the 5m intervals back it would make the handicapper's job much easier! But they'd be making the starter's job tougher ... and the last thing you want to do is make those stand-starts more difficult than they can prove sometimes...

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    I am pretty sure 15m, 25m, ...... are still in the rules Cody
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    Yeah, I think they are too Kevin, but I know the Victorian system doesn't use them anymore. I had a quick look over HRA rules the other day and saw 5m was still an option.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Messenger View Post
    I am pretty sure 15m, 25m, ...... are still in the rules Cody
    Hi Kev, Nothing wrong with having horses handicapped on 15m or 25m's if their career classification justifies it, Lenny has definitley beaten the handicapper probably due to his lack of recent racing but as Ash touched on, P-Man was off the scene for 27 months and his recent form has been very good but there's no reason that Lenny shouldn't be starting along side him. I was scratching my head with Breno's 5m's but no doubt the young fella is on the ball. I also think that Bit of a Legend has done well with the Handicapper, He's fairly smart and his recent form has been good, If Breno was the Handicapper, I would be hassling him about switching Smudge Bromac and Bit of a Legend and also giving Steam Washed a good draw as she's the only female in the field.

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    Always love listening to Greg Carpenter, Racing Vic Chief Handicapper. Wonder what Breno's radio voice is like? Even with the mare assessed M2, I thinks she deserves to be of the front. The Aiken camp will be smiling going into tomorrow night.

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