Reply With QuoteI think Philadelphia man has beaten the handicapper with only 10
An excellent field with the winner exempt from the Hunter Cup ballot
Philadelphia Man 10m
Bitobliss 20m
For A Reason 30m
Off the fr:
Lennytheshark
Franco Ledger
Bit Of A Legend
and more
You would say only a couple of Aikens were the only one's without a place hope
It is a discretionary so For A Reason and Bitobliss seem a little hard done by on present form
http://www.harness.org.au/fields.cfm...romstate=vic#5
Greg Sugars was a Champion harness racing person
I think Philadelphia man has beaten the handicapper with only 10
Really?Originally Posted by Big Mac
You think he should have 15 or 20m?
Lenny is C10 M4 $382,000 with 2 wins albeit last season over Guaranteed who is current Fav on TAB for Vic Cup and Hunter Cup.
Phil is C14 M4 $285,000 whose last 4 runs after 27 months in the paddock has won him an MO an M1 or better FFA, a C7 or better FFA, and a Group 2 Country Cup.
Based on Phils current aura and obvious ability i think 10m is granted, however based on the above in my opinion i think Lenny has beaten the handicapper, and should be back there with him.
FR
Jackka Clive
Wartime Sweetheart
5m
Steam Washed
Franco Ledger
Flaming Flutter
Star Chamber
Bit of a Legend
10m
Smudge Bromac
15m
Bitobliss
Lennytheshark
20m
For A Reason
Philadelphia Man
You might have the potential to be a handicapper Brendan (if we overlook the 5m error)
The order seems fine
just combine the fr, 5m and 10m
and the rest as is
Greg Sugars was a Champion harness racing person
If they brought the 5m intervals back it would make the handicapper's job much easier! But they'd be making the starter's job tougher ... and the last thing you want to do is make those stand-starts more difficult than they can prove sometimes...
I am pretty sure 15m, 25m, ...... are still in the rules Cody
Greg Sugars was a Champion harness racing person
Yeah, I think they are too Kevin, but I know the Victorian system doesn't use them anymore. I had a quick look over HRA rules the other day and saw 5m was still an option.
Hi Kev, Nothing wrong with having horses handicapped on 15m or 25m's if their career classification justifies it, Lenny has definitley beaten the handicapper probably due to his lack of recent racing but as Ash touched on, P-Man was off the scene for 27 months and his recent form has been very good but there's no reason that Lenny shouldn't be starting along side him. I was scratching my head with Breno's 5m's but no doubt the young fella is on the ball. I also think that Bit of a Legend has done well with the Handicapper, He's fairly smart and his recent form has been good, If Breno was the Handicapper, I would be hassling him about switching Smudge Bromac and Bit of a Legend and also giving Steam Washed a good draw as she's the only female in the field.
Always love listening to Greg Carpenter, Racing Vic Chief Handicapper. Wonder what Breno's radio voice is like? Even with the mare assessed M2, I thinks she deserves to be of the front. The Aiken camp will be smiling going into tomorrow night.
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