Quote Originally Posted by Old Frank View Post
Please don't use the word 'fact' Racefair when you don't quote any such facts.

You cannot use the word 'fact' when your only casting an opinion, and in most cases when you've attempted to use facts, they merely are 'aspersion'.

None of us have facts to Luke's success, we can only quote only contributing factors helping him towards such success, however you and the guy's oppossed to that are only claiming opinion, or at times innuendo and casting aspersion to his success.

None of you have 'fact', that is a fact.
Thanks for your reply Nathan. I was speaking of the facts and data that we have to work with. i.e. the percentage improvement, strike rate etc. And we can benchmark against those statistics of present and past trainers in Harness Racing. We can also benchmark against other sports such as Thoroughbred Racing, Human Athletics etc.
There are alot of facts that we can form an opinion from. One fact is that LM has made/is making improvements in horses of the magnitude that you would get if you were to use performance enhancing drugs/treatments. Read books on the subject of Drugs in Racehorses/Athletes and see what type of improvements they get. Then also read books on the subject on the different training methods of Racehorses/Athletes and see the progression of improvement they get in the time that they get it.
Another fact is that the contributing factors that you and some others are referring to, won’t exclusively or in combination, get the type of improvements/results that we are seeing. Show me facts to the contrary.
I've provided some references in prior posts, however I encourage you to do your own research.
So then the only question that I have, based on history, facts and alot of other things is whether LM’s improvements/results are through legal, illegal, and/or undetectable methods.
I’d love for someone to influence me otherwise with some facts on how else such improvements/results could be made. I’ve asked before and no one has even made up a reason.
Does this make sense or am I missing something?