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    [QUOTE=Harold Parker;17668]because the stewards would of fined him for doing so.

    Explain Please.

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    [QUOTE=teecee;17674]
    Quote Originally Posted by Harold Parker View Post
    because the stewards would of fined him for doing so.

    Explain Please.
    For wasting their time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Harold Parker View Post
    Now that the stewards have turned a blind eye to it, it could be demolition Derby at Gloucester Park on Friday night. The precedence has been set, do what you like Chaps !!
    I have not yet been privvy to all the info on this issue.
    I am unable to find the stewards report for last night's meeting. From your comment you may know where I can find it so I can form a view.

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    [QUOTE=Harold Parker;17676]
    Quote Originally Posted by teecee View Post

    For wasting their time.
    Why so.
    Is he not allowed to protest if he feels his chances of finishing in a higher position are affected. It is more so importanat when all starters earn points to the finals.
    If not who is ??

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    For those with a recent memory, you will recall at the last Interdom held in WA, G Hall jnr was suspended just prior to the start of the series BUT the penalty was not to start until after the Interdom series. Some would say he has a dream run over there. Not so lucky in the MM for crossing when not clear and you could hear the cheers from WA that he finally got done for it, as he is known for it in WA....penalty free

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    You cannot compare the Butt and Hall drives as when Butt had the opportunity to push out it was prior to the designated ease out pole and he would definitely have been suspended for doing so. The Hall/Lewis incident was after the pole and Lewis endeavoured to hold his position but Hall had the momentum and the superior speed. The only suspension possibility was if jostling was involved and they appeared to be equally complicit in this regard.

    As mentioned previously the clever thing for Lewis to have done was to have his horses legs outside the three wide horse thus closing any gap for Hall. dasher VC is not the best gated horse going around either and it was not surprising to see him pace roughly when pressure was applied. This is Grand Circuit racing at the highest level and you can expect similar moves in the rest of the heats and the final. Pretty much any outward movement after the 600m is permissible provided you have an advantage on the outside horse.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chariots View Post
    You cannot compare the Butt and Hall drives as when Butt had the opportunity to push out it was prior to the designated ease out pole and he would definitely have been suspended for doing so. The Hall/Lewis incident was after the pole and Lewis endeavoured to hold his position but Hall had the momentum and the superior speed. The only suspension possibility was if jostling was involved and they appeared to be equally complicit in this regard.

    As mentioned previously the clever thing for Lewis to have done was to have his horses legs outside the three wide horse thus closing any gap for Hall. dasher VC is not the best gated horse going around either and it was not surprising to see him pace roughly when pressure was applied. This is Grand Circuit racing at the highest level and you can expect similar moves in the rest of the heats and the final. Pretty much any outward movement after the 600m is permissible provided you have an advantage on the outside horse.
    I have issue with the push out rule, 600m is it ? because at no point is the horse with the three wide trail any hope of holding that line with a driver agressively rolling out underneath it no matter how well it's travelling. So at the 600m or just a tad later re last night, Lewis made the mistake of not hooking 4 wide because the driver on the 1-10 Fav pocketed himself 300m earlier. I didn't see the coverage last night, I was at the track but I suspect they were saying what a great drive it was. It could get messy on Friday in all 11 races : )

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    Up until approximately 2 years ago you could ease from the 900m and it appeared that there was serious issues with jostling and head to head movement so it was moved further on until the 600m. WA racing has been under this rule for some time so I don't see the rest of the series being anything different to the normal racing pattern. One lesson from the Butt/Hall drives is that you are really rolling the dice if you allow yourself to be covered in the last 800m at GP

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    I love the racing in WA but they've made a few balls ups over there in recent times. Shortening the distances i.e to the first corner was rubbish. 7 and 5 is too many as well. All bought about I hear because Has The Answers was making a mockery of the Handicapping by zooming out. Even the arms of the mobile appear to favour the inside ?

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    Agree with you about the release point but the seven/five start appears to have had a positive effect on handicapping and turnover.

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