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    Quote Originally Posted by terror View Post
    I dont want to sound like a complete prick but yet again gary jr broke under pressure in big races in the east side, its not the horse fault he lost ?? why did gary use his speed out of the barrier arms at the start??? what happen off belieaving in his speed????why play him out of his comfort zone??? even thou he had the sit behind the leader the pace was enought to take the sting away from his sprint, gary knew lance welll have the pace on god knows what gary was thinking
    Gary Jnr perhaps did not give his horse the best chance to win but Lance absolutlely slaughted SU. I thought the stewards could have charged him for not giving the horse every chance to win. SU did a great job to hang on as long as he did.

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    Quote Originally Posted by clumsy View Post
    Gary Jnr perhaps did not give his horse the best chance to win but Lance absolutlely slaughted SU. I thought the stewards could have charged him for not giving the horse every chance to win. SU did a great job to hang on as long as he did.
    Perhaps you might be a bit harsh here, maybe that question could be asked of John McCarthy on Washakie

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    Quote Originally Posted by p plater View Post
    Perhaps you might be a bit harsh here, maybe that question could be asked of John McCarthy on Washakie
    John McCarthy went to the death and did not press on for the lead, Lance was out three wide and driving with aggression to cross to the death or lead when he should have known that those positions were not going to be given to him.

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    Great Vic cup full of action throughout.
    Once commited to going three wide i think Lance had to keep on pushing forward John had the choice to hand up. i would of but im not John so that was his decision.
    Smoken up as usual another big run, he just never stops trying. True warrior
    Quinny met the best and although it was a good run he had his chance, the winner was too good on the night.
    Mah sish really surprised me he stepped up and showed he can mix it with the best if he gets the right draw.
    Throw in Terror to love and Excel stride and what an interdominion we have to look forward to.
    In my opinion I dont think any horse will dominate the next 12 months the barrier draws will hold the key.
    We hopefully should witness some mighty battles cant wait.

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    Quote Originally Posted by clumsy View Post
    Gary Jnr perhaps did not give his horse the best chance to win but Lance absolutlely slaughted SU. I thought the stewards could have charged him for not giving the horse every chance to win. SU did a great job to hang on as long as he did.
    its pretty hard for the stewards to charge lance when he always driven smoken up that way

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    Caribbean Blaster awesome. 3wide last 1300m well done.
    Mah Sish. Did zip, sprintlane, 2nd.
    Quinn. Sprinted for 300m. Had the cosiest sit possible after that for the next 1700m while at least 6 other horses go 3 wide making moves and some left 3 wide the whole race. Could have sprintlaned, chose to come 3 wide and sprint another 250m but ran out of heart within about 100m. Fading 3rd. I rest my case.
    Melpark, 3wide last 1300, 4wide and about 12-15 m behind Quinn at the 400, got within 4.8m, excellent.
    Terrorway, came out the gate as well as he could, immediately pushed forward 3wide to take lead as Quinn eased for cover, used plenty of gas first 4-500m, plugged on quite well.
    Franco Jamar settled 1 by 2, dragged back, last at 500, came home well with Melpark, came home well at Cranbourne too...
    Smoken Up 3 wide for 2240! Shame he didn't get to the death at bell. Still may not have won but would have been closer great run he has obviously still got it.
    Sushi, 4pegs, followed Mah Sish but lost at least 2lengths on that horse in straight, couldn't pass Trigger or Terrorway or Melpark who all worked very hard, terrible.
    The Gold Ace, burnt out quick with Quinn, eased and got 1 by 1 then 1by 2, dragged back by weakening Washakie and then checked by Melpark at 350 when following Carribean, eased to the line cos too far back, keep safe.
    Washakie, 3wide until 1100 from home when got the death, but then accosted by Trigger, gone at 600, tough run but by his standards expected a little better, apparently trainer disappointed too.
    Bitobliss, similar run to Washakie but was afforded 1 by 1, dragged back by Washakie, dropped to pegs to follow Sushi but actually lost at least 20m or more on that horse, wasn't driven out by Stewart may have been kind to him, but similar result as Cranbourne!
    Pembrook Benny, 3wide whole trip following Trigger, what was he thinking! Last by 55m.

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    Quote Originally Posted by clumsy View Post
    Gary Jnr perhaps did not give his horse the best chance to win but Lance absolutlely slaughted SU. I thought the stewards could have charged him for not giving the horse every chance to win. SU did a great job to hang on as long as he did.
    Slaughtered him? Not giving him every chance? That's the way he races! Smoken Up 3 wide entire race nearly finishes 2 lengths off of horse of the year who sat behind leader with cushy run the whole way. Washakie gone at 600m beaten 40m. Who giving their horse best chance to win?

    So what was his best chance to win? Lance stated from day 1 what he was going to and did it. That was his best chance to win. No disrespect intended but you reckon Lance thought "Washakies in the death. I better not go forward"?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mitch View Post
    I don't think any bubble has burst. The first 3 were all excellent.

    Given the work Quinny did early his run was excellent.
    The work he did early? Give me a break.

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    Quote Originally Posted by clumsy View Post
    John McCarthy went to the death and did not press on for the lead, Lance was out three wide and driving with aggression to cross to the death or lead when he should have known that those positions were not going to be given to him.
    And given how the race was run,just exactly where do you think LJ should have been?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Toohard View Post
    Slaughtered him? Not giving him every chance? That's the way he races! Smoken Up 3 wide entire race nearly finishes 2 lengths off of horse of the year who sat behind leader with cushy run the whole way. Washakie gone at 600m beaten 40m. Who giving their horse best chance to win?

    So what was his best chance to win? Lance stated from day 1 what he was going to and did it. That was his best chance to win. No disrespect intended but you reckon Lance thought "Washakies in the death. I better not go forward"?
    Looking at Smoken Up's personal time last night, he ran 1.54.3 being 3 wide the entire trip. His track record is 1.53.4. Lance is right, he has come back near his best. The more you watch the replay the more respect SU must get. Outstanding, he made the race

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