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    Senior Member 4YO dizzy will become famous soon enough
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    Triple VVV you would be surprised at the similarity between the horse and human genome. Many of the genetic diseases found in horses have a parallel in humans or would that be vice versa perhaps. I've been looking for your definition of inbreeding since the last time you posted it, still cant find it so perhaps you could post a reference for it this time? I didn't do high school biology. Are you saying it is only inbreeding if you combine the mitachrondial dna which is exclusively tail female of course. If Life Sign had been mated to Lisheen that would not be inbred right?

    I've no doubt VVV that a flaw in human dna leads to foal losses but has it occured to you that some of those foals maybe cant be saved? Whilst no doubt our interventions could be better do you really think its got worse in recent years from those days of no foaling alarms at all and most mares foaled down with the
    cows. I have to disagree VVV a mare not able to foal down without intervention or a foal unable to survive without intervention is very much a genetic aspect. You know mother nature, survival of the fittest stuff. These mares if left to natures way would be culled from the herd thus leaving a herd which could for the most part but not exclusively so foal down without difficulty. Same for all those crooked legged foals who through surgical intervention acquire sufficiently straight legs to at some time in the future contribute their flawed genes to the gene pool.

    You'll have to show me where it was that I said prepotency was guaranteed to be a good thing.

    As to breeding 2x3 and 3x3 on the sire line I'll swear you laughed at me on a recent post because Australia top breeders were doing it? And then you said you'd die a happy man if you could emulate them? And now you say your not in favour of it? And now there are no yearlings bred like it in 50 odd years so thats why there cant be any good ones? Come on VVV only a few months ago you were passionately listing all the successfull 3x3 cross on the sire line to Cam Fella to put me in my place, remember around breeders challenge final time? You know awarding your friend who lives in a cave on the gold coast a nostradamus award? (sorry VVV's friend if your reading this because I truely am awful at remembering names, I don't mean to offend) Give me a break VVV make up your mind.

    Sorry VVV you have completely lost me with your definition of my apparent definition of line and inbreeding. Your American Ideal/ Talilia yearling and its parents how do you describe those in terms of line/inbreeding?

    If you say so VVV about the tesio program, frankly I thought our leading breeders were smarter then that especially since you wish to emulate them but hey you actually could be right here, a quick perusal of the variety of mating choices for many mares that have had several foals shows a very wide selection of stallions used with regard to phenotype and genotype. Of course if you breed for the sales that is absolutely the right thing because the definition of well bred is whats going to be popular at the sale based on proven behaviour patterns of buyers.

    Tesio was a very smart man and yes he was prone to mischief at times but the key to understanding his genius wasn't in what he said or wrote but what he did.
    Last edited by dizzy; 01-19-2013 at 04:32 PM. Reason: cant spell for s@@@

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