Quote Originally Posted by buster View Post
i bet you didnt find 1 vet or anyone with a tertiary level background in genetics or science that told you that... it was even the reverse myth in the fisheries where they believed older mothers produced higher quality offspring (and this has been extensively studied)
You lost the bet, 2 were vets (one from Canada, one from America, but heck, does that not count because they are not from Australia?) but sadly none were geneticists. I do not believe what scientists say as the gospel. Science cannot explain why massive doses of Vitamin C, colloidal silver, hydrogen peroxide and plain balanced diet cured Flashing Red's joint infection when the Ballarat Vet Clinic and all their tests and drugs over several months could not. I could go on.

Quote Originally Posted by buster View Post
ps- the sushi sushi gang are not disappointed with their ET foal out of an old mare
That's just one example but its good to hear regardless as next season we will be using ET, albeit with a young, large and unraced mare that is also an excellent mother.

What I can't understand is that you come across that anyone that believes contrary to yourself on this topic must be stupid. Like it's so obvious that you are right. Its not about being right, its about differing opinions. If it really was that dried, done and dusted there would never be any discussion on this topic as it would be accepted. The fact that there are still qualms about frozen semen, embryo transfer etc shows that this topic is still not settled, which may also mean that you (and me) may not be right. Like I have said, I really don't have enough personal experience to comment on frozen semen or ET but was rather providing what many people still believe to be a genuine other side of the coin. My lack of experience in this field means my opinions are shaped by those around me, who I would be happy to achieve 1/4 of what they have in many cases!!

I don't know, many people formed their opinions years ago on frozen semen and ET when it were in their infancy and you can't tell me with better technology and techniques of today that it would not produce better, if not more consistent, results. People's problems are they are stuck in the past and don't want to move forward. However lets move forward when there is compelling evidence to do so.

I would never normally endorse ET however there has been some compelling evidence for its cause. There is also beginning to be compelling evidence for the use of frozen semen, one example as previously mentioned is Bettor's Delight. When push comes to shove, people want to breed the best horse they can, I really think that is all it boils down to.