Breeders challenge final menangle

[aussiebreno]

I read an article about 2months back suggesting this. Don't remember it being Breeders Challenge day but Winston seems positive it was. Probably something that never stood up.

[triplev123]

Pound for Pound....Time Trials are THE single most ridiculous thing done in Harness Racing, imo. Dustbin of History stuff.

[desibg]

Thanks for everyone looking into it, i couldn't find anything either. I have to admit it would be a pretty boring old display, plus who would want to give there horse a gut buster and not rewarded with any prizemoney, unless of course they were looking for a time for breeding.

[mango]

Always wondered could they or do they get tested like a horse that win's a race.

[triplev123]

Technically yes they are/should be, in practice however....maybe not always. One infamous case of a horse falling foul of exactly such testing was Cambest, producing a TC02 overage after he had TT'd in 1:46 & a piece.

[remington]

Thanks for everyone looking into it, i couldn't find anything either. I have to admit it would be a pretty boring old display, plus who would want to give there horse a gut buster and not rewarded with any prizemoney, unless of course they were looking for a time for breeding.

When buying a yearling tho would you look into the time a mare ran in a time trial or actually in a race. For me i prefer to look at race performances and a time trial time wouldnt even phase me, just my opinion

[mango]

Thanks Triple

I must admit i didn't know about Cambest but i oftened wondered how he could go a super mile back then. To be honest i don't think time trials should stand and be put into sale pedigree books as black print.

[mango]

When buying a yearling tho would you look into the time a mare ran in a time trial or actually in a race. For me i prefer to look at race performances and a time trial time wouldnt even phase me, just my opinion

Race performance for me

[David Summers]

Race performance for me

Ditto. Time trials are a gimmick and their rather dubious "usefulness" went out in the 80's when we were desperately trying to keep up with U.S. race times on our then tiny tracks. They are completely irrelevant these days.

[mightymo]

I am totally against time trials, and believe they should not get a mare black type.

Lets face it. There is not a mare on this planet that cant go to menangle and time trial in sub 2 min.

For them to then get black type is a total farce