One thing though...the $20K victory may count as an M penalty across the borders. Upward Ever Upward won about 5 Restricted races at Wagga during the EI period...turned out Victoria made him a C7 or something when he was still a C2 in NSW. Forgot how it all panned out in regards to if Victoria ended up counting them as Restricted.
And I sure wouldn't complain about copping a penalty for the heat win.
absolutely aussiebreno... it will take awhile but owners will lose out, horses that win these races in nsw will have penalties in other states and take big penalties in sale prices, esp. qld which is the strongest market for out handicapped nsw horses
I think the races at wagga he won were classed as c races as the prizemoney was above $3000 perhap's that is why i think when he raced in VIC after the EI he started as a c6 or 7Originally Posted by aussiebreno
Have whoever you want on but don't ever have yourself on
What do you mean by owner's will lose out your racing for just about double a normal race for a heat and $20,000 final if your racing in NSW what does it matter how the other states handicap you i don't understand what you mean
Have whoever you want on but don't ever have yourself on
because its 1 race...your not racing for that money every week...so you win the heat and final and get your 15k or whatever it works out, in nsw you are now a c2 but you are on your mark as a c2...owners wants to make a profit and sell...in qld, sa hes a c4 m1, so your copping the penalty there, so the extra money you won becomes evened out by not being able to sell the horse for reasonable money
That is if you breed to race then sell you are winning 2 races not 1 and as you said come out a c2 here this is where claiming races could come in and take over these horses i'm only talking about NSW i'm not worried what other states do
Have whoever you want on but don't ever have yourself on
It is a National Handicapping System fellas. If a horse leaves NSW graded as a C1 it does not get re-assessed after crossing the QLD or VIC border. A C1 is a C1 is a C1 is a C1. The only way that I can see one of these races might impinge on subsequent racing opportunities would be in the short term via a W$L5 or Winners of less than $X or some such condition...and even then it would be no great issue.
Not so Smithy. Individual States are completely free to deem races as Penalty Free whenever they so wish..... and the horses that win them cannot subsequently be subjected to retrospective re-handicapping upon sale Interstate. Smithy, I think you're confusing NZ imports with Australian bred & performed horses that move from 1 State to another.
It doesn't Breno. There may well be re-handicapping of NZ/US/CAN imports but as far as Australian bred & performed horses being sold Interstate it does not happen.
Hey Smithy,
You're making my head spin here. How in blue blazes does the owner of a C0 that wins an 8k Heat & 20k Final, nets $17,250 and is still only a C2, lose out???????? Seems to me that it's raining Gold and you're complaining about the weather.
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