The ASBP Report: How can they be serious? Bad news for harness owners

[mango]

Hi Justdoit

Some of them horses that would be expected to pay a premium are horses who have paid to be eligable to race in the Breeders Crown etc, the way i see it is they have paid the same fee as us here in Aus so they should be entitled to take there money and run and vice versa if we go over there as Sushi Sushi, Smoken Up and before them Divisive have done.

[nat]

Interesting point Mango how many NZ'rs contribute to our futurity races with making at least the first payment

I am opposed to slugging any owner or breeder higher fee's to start any council society or organization and any added mare race. I'm now millionaire and its expensive enough now and I don't want to be slugged just because I want the best for my dollar with a NZ horse. I want equality at least in 2-3 and 4yld between the sexes and gates considering its a 50/50 chance when breeding if you get a filly or colt

I don't know about anyone else but for me I breed, buy, own, race & train so I can try and get that top liner and win races and see that money go in my bank account if I wanted trophy's and accolades I'd start taking them to pony club and the royal shows

[triplev123]

I know the owners of Sabilize well and they were just too damned stubborn to give up on her. If medals get handed out for that then I agree, they deserve one.

Didn't he used to wear a snow white skull cap on the odd occasion when he took the drive?
Sat bolt upright in the bike...reminded me of Bert Alley.

[Gtrain]

besides Sushi are there any other good ET horses?

How much does it cost to do the ET?

Kid Coconut is another I think is an ET. Not a bad horse.

[triplev123]

Invitro, a Camluck filly now mare from Canada is an ET. She has raced with distinction from 2-7 & has won over $1.9 million.
Nice family Kid Coconut's from. Hoppy O'Halloran bred his dam, Mi Coconut, from his good mare Milady. The Great One, Edgar Tatlow had that family back in the early 1960's in VIC, previously came from NZ.

[mango]

Interesting to see that 6 of the 7 horses that raced at Globe Derby in the first race tonight were nz bred.

[The Big Mile]

Interesting to see that 6 of the 7 horses that raced at Globe Derby in the first race tonight were nz bred.

Last night at Gloucester Park for their metro meeting 46% of horses were NZ'ers.

Take them out, you have no meeting = no turnover = no returns to the industry.

Take Take out half of the NZ'ers and you have 2.5 less races = less turnover = less returns to the industry.

MENANGLE tonight:

40% of all runners were NZ'ers. Take them out, no metro meeting conducted.

MENANGLE Tuesday:

39% of runners were ex NZ'ers. Take them out, no meeting conducted.

MENANGLE Monday:

27% of runners ex NZ'ers. Take them out, no meeting conducted.

The Ex-Kiwis would appear to be fairly important to our racing it seems like.

[Greg Hando]

How many horses nominated for each race would be a better way of looking at it

[The Big Mile]

How many horses nominated for each race would be a better way of looking at it

Hard to gauge with Menangle as so many horses are multiple noms but I don't think there will be any great disparity with any balloted out. I'd say that the percentages would be roughly the same with those horses too.

What it does show is the penetration into the local racing population of the Ex Kiwis. Certainly not insignificant.

[triplev123]

Last night at Gloucester Park for their metro meeting 46% of horses were NZ'ers.

Take them out, you have no meeting = no turnover = no returns to the industry.

Take Take out half of the NZ'ers and you have 2.5 less races = less turnover = less returns to the industry.

MENANGLE tonight:

40% of all runners were NZ'ers. Take them out, no metro meeting conducted.

MENANGLE Tuesday:

39% of runners were ex NZ'ers. Take them out, no meeting conducted.

MENANGLE Monday:

27% of runners ex NZ'ers. Take them out, no meeting conducted.

The Ex-Kiwis would appear to be fairly important to our racing it seems like.

WA is a particularly bad example TBM.
Vested Interests in WA Harness Racing saw to it that their State's Breeding Industry was destroyed and now their racing relies almost entirely upon a veritable river of high priced ready mades from NZ. Certain persons over there should hang their God damned heads in shame. Gloucester Park should be renamed Alexandra Park West or maybe Cambridge on the Swan.