BOOM.....McCarthy Positive.

[aussiebreno]

It seems there is no hope of some of these old tracks racing again............in Victoria they have gone on a camapign to bring back to life some of the old tracks.........but it is business as usual in NSW, everything leads to Menangle, so who needs so many tracks when the punters just want to bet, and TAB turnover is the prime concern............There are so many tracks in the Riverina and out west, I'm sure something is going to give out that way soon! At the moment that is the place to be, it is thriving!

When one says the Riverina is thriving you know things must be bad in other places!

[tiny]

Dan
I know it sounds unlikely but that is the only plausible explanation I can think of. Mack wiper has returned clean swabs shortly before and after and all the info on boldenone says it stays in the system about 12 months.

[murray green]

Dan
I know it sounds unlikely but that is the only plausible explanation I can think of. Mack wiper has returned clean swabs shortly before and after and all the info on boldenone says it stays in the system about 12 months.

Tiny
Read what Teecee wrote #149. This may help you.

[tiny]

Tiny
Read what Teecee wrote #149. This may help you.

I asked one of the stewards if all prohibited substances were tested for in each swab and he said they are. So back to the only theory left.

[The Form Student]

When one says the Riverina is thriving you know things must be bad in other places!

I just meant there is quite a lot of activity down their with the number of meetings, trials, number of races at a meeting and full fields etc

[barney]

I asked one of the stewards if all prohibited substances were tested for in each swab and he said they are. So back to the only theory left.

The other theory is masking agents

[The Form Student]

The other theory is masking agents

That is it..........and if it is.......we are going to need some very highly qualified vets/forensics to argue the point! This could be the begining of a new TV series Miami Newcastle CSI!!!!!!!!!

[tiny]

Don't just cover one night in Newcastle. How about a mini series covering the last twelve months. I recon it would be top of the rateings.

[Triple V]

Care to elaborate on that suggestion Barney?

What substances would you suggest are being used as a masking agents ?

What drugs are those masking agents attempting to disguise the presence of ?

From a chemistry/testing regime aspect, how exactly do these masking agents succeed in covering up the presence of illegal substances?

Unless of course it was all just more of a 'throw-away line'?

[Triple V]

I asked one of the stewards if all prohibited substances were tested for in each swab and he said they are. So back to the only theory left.

[VVV] That's a pretty foolish answer for a Steward to give you Andy because common sense dictates that courtesy of the couple of tubes of blood they take, pathology wise it is just physically impossible to pull enough blood to test for everything on the performance enhancing radar...on top of it being financially ridiculously expensive to do so. Add that to the fact that there is no shotgun/fishing net style multi platform test for nefarious substances, there never has been and there most likely never will be and the real answer is of course, no they are not. The test for used to detect bute is not the test for a narcotic which in turn is of course not the test for a hormone which is not the test for micera which is in turn not the test for elevated TCO2 etc etc etc. With the garden variety things I think they just get picked up as a matter of course but at the same time with the less common/more exotic substances I think it's more than reasonable to suggest that the Stewards have to strongly suspect that a specific substance is being used in order to zero in their testing. For example, if a trainer was using an obscure human dementia drug as in fact was the case in the US last year, no way any of the run of the mill tests would ever pick it up.