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Thread: The ASBP Report: How can they be serious? Bad news for harness owners

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    LOL Aussie bit of a typo error

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    Hi Aussiebreno

    Mare's served in n.z are correct in my former post as i was e-mailed the list of mare's served over the last 10yrs by a respected breeder who is high up in the breeding industry in n.z, i was over there in early april and was discussing this topic with them and then a month later i recieved the service chart.

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    Hi Aussiebreno

    I just found the e-mail i was sent, as per certificate's lodged with HRNZ.

    00/01 - 4296

    01/02 - 4879

    02/03 - 4856

    03/04 - 4676

    04/05 - 4226

    05/06 - 4071

    06/07 - 4057

    07/08 - 4266

    08/09 - 3867

    09/10 - 4015

    10/11 - 3500

    There's been 46709 mare's served in 11yrs giving an average of 4246 mare's served per year.
    Last edited by mango; 08-08-2011 at 09:57 AM.

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    Yeah mango, wasnt disputing. Is there a standout reason for just 3500 last season? That is a big drop.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aussiebreno View Post
    Yeah mango, wasnt disputing. Is there a standout reason for just 3500 last season? That is a big drop.

    WOW!!!

    That is a very astute observation on your part Breno

    Do you still think declining foals isnt a problem????

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    Quote Originally Posted by mightymo View Post
    I share similar views Triple v, yet when this was brought up with various state programmers they suggest that on many occasions when they do program fillies/mares only races, they dont receive enough noms. my response was that they should simply program them and race them anyway, and eventually trainers will see them and put their fillies and mares in
    [VVV] G'day Mightymo. Mate, I am so sick to death of that attitude...we program them but the races don't stand up so we don't program them. I am sick to death of these Bozos envoking the Chicken & Egg defence. I suggested the very same thing at the Panel meeting held at Menangle and I got the well worn, totally expected response from a couple of people I thought would be on side but were apparently not..."the TAB agreement prevents us from going with less than full fields".
    Well, my view is not pretty, it is not particularly palatable but the time is nigh that we take a more militant attitude.
    I say $%&@ the TAB's. $%&@ them all right down to their potted Ficus & Happy Plants. $%&@ their views on full fields. The States need to grow some Cojones right here, right now and they need to stand up and do what we all know is the right thing to do...rather than allowing the Industry to remain little more than a Puppet of the short-sighted bean counting SOB's in offices somewhere in Ultimo. Card the God damned races people and then run them with whomever fronts up and drops their names into the box, regardless if they have full fields or not, and persist in doing so beyond a few weeks or a month or two. They'll get the noms & the full fields and they'll get them in very short order.
    Last edited by triplev123; 08-08-2011 at 01:52 PM.

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    Was just talking to a mate of mine and he raised the point that it is mandated that Breeders Crown Heats throughout Australia are run with whomever noms, regardless of numbers.
    Now why is it that, at least in the short term, something of a similar program could not be instituted so as to foster more fillies & mares only races? Surely it can't be that God damned difficult?
    Last edited by triplev123; 08-08-2011 at 07:26 PM. Reason: maNdated...even

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    Quote Originally Posted by roosters View Post
    WOW!!!

    That is a very astute observation on your part Breno

    Do you still think declining foals isnt a problem????
    Its NZ and the drop in the last season is exaggerated to the prior 10 seasons. Hence my query to Mango; hope he has an answer. It probably has to be a dramatic change. Which now Lance has said below Govt stopped funding.
    That has nothing to do with declining foals in Aust over a period of time. You may as well say the increase in pig numbers in Mozambique will result in an increase in chicken numbers in Antartica.
    My figures show it isn't declining foal numbers rather horse retention.
    VVV and others have put up great ideas to retain horses.
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    Quote Originally Posted by aussiebreno View Post
    Its NZ and the drop in the last season is exaggerated to the prior 10 seasons. Hence my query to Mango; hope he has an answer. It probably has to be a dramatic change. Which now Lance has said below Govt stopped funding.
    That has nothing to do with declining foals in Aust over a period of time. You may as well say the increase in pig numbers in Mozambique will result in an increase in chicken numbers in Antartica.
    My figures show it isn't declining foal numbers rather horse retention.
    VVV and others have put up great ideas to retain horses.
    ////thread
    LOL - it must be play time at kinder. Do they let you you use the computers instead of playing in the sandpit??

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    Yeah, so I take it you have nothing constructive to add?

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